You are so one sided and brainwashed that it is not even worth trying to point out the inaccuracies in your posts.
Religious zealotry be it Christian, Muslim or Jewish is almost always very negative. Combine that with rabid nationalism such as the case with Likud and other even more extreme movements and it is recipe for moral disaster. All Muslims and especially Hamas is certainly not innocent in all of this but the utterly disproportionate response makes Israel clearly an evil party in this latest assault.
Bloodgimp makes an interesting point " It's almost as if he forgot that his own people experienced their own genocide say, what, just 80 years ago..." Given that horrid and dark chapter in human history why would they possibly want to add a few pages of their own to it?
Let's not forget however that this and other recent flash points are also a proxy war between Iran vs. Israel and Saudi Arabia to assert themselves in the middle east as the regional power.
(Yes Saudi Arabia the hotbed of terrorism whose crooked leaders are more concerned with their lavish lifestyles than caring about other Muslims)
"And those trolling the article in the name of Israel should hang their heads in shame."
And Hamas ends the latest cease-fire by firing rockets into Israel.
Anonymous, hang your head in shame.
Well written article. And those trolling the article in the name of Israel should hang their heads in shame. People are dying, folks.
EXACTLYY Israel is disgusting we hate them may ALLAH HELP GAZA...
WE ARE WITH YOU GAZA ALLAH WILL HELP US !
The world's foremost mathemetician and theoretical physicist, an Arab-American woman, has solved one of CL's most enduring mysteries using two simple, yet quite elegant, differential equations which are shown here:
terrorist = bad
non-terrorist = good
The explosive discovery which rocked the CL (Cunty Leftist) boards early Wednesday morning seems to end the debate over whether or not words actually have meanings. Non-terrorists agree that these equations do further demonstrate the idea that the current conflict in Gaza is a "very, very small part of a much larger picture" and that bloodgimp is sadly irrelevant.
"It's time we take political correctness and throw it in the garbage where it belongs, and start calling a spade a spade," said noted activist and Arab-American Muslim Brigitte Gabriel.
"All civilian deaths, as regrettable as they are, fall squarely on Hamas's shoulders," added Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
See the full mathematical proof here: http://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s
"Right. I'm a bigoted piece of garbage, and Hamas is good. Got it."
You got half of it right. I can see basic comprehension skills are a problem for you.
The state of Israel was created after WWII. The USA facilitated an invasion of Palestine where they took over the land and renamed it Israel. We have that to thank for all the trouble since. Zionism is wrong. Israel in the holy sense of the word is not a physical place but rather a spiritual place. The pursuit of Israel in terms of a physical place will end in bloodshed and war. It's wrong.
The question begs why arnt people taking to the streets to stop the syrian regime who is killing many more people than Israel. The answer lies in the fact that lots of people harbor anti jewish feelings. It is hypocritical at best what the world does in protesting in mass against Israel but nearly no protests in Paris or London for Syria. Muslims need to do their house cleaning. Why arnt our peacefull Mulsim brothers protesting the expulsion of Christians right now in Iraq or Egypt? If you believe what you say about being a religion of peace prove it
Right. I'm a bigoted piece of garbage, and Hamas is good. Got it.
There is a pretty simple solution it seems, Hamas stops lobbing missiles into Israel, Israel backs off and leaves them alone... It was Hamas, not Israel, who rejected Egypt's cease fire proposal.
The people of Gaza need to make it clear they will not tolerate Hamas using them as weapons shields.
And quiet in that sense that the big super powers cant even say a thing to these Israeli's ... Shameful to call them super powers :(
I am ashamed of myself , sitting here and cant do anything for Palestinians people . If a single person die anywhere , in any part of world , we take that news to media and make sure the killer get punished.And here Israeli's are daily killing hundreds , also in literal form by not giving them food , medicines etc and media is sooo quiet like they are not humans. Sorry but this is not Justice .
"The Israeli goverment is good (as governments go), and Hamas is bad (absolutely). It's very plain."
If you really think it is that plain than you really are the beyond-help-idiot I was thinking you to be. And if you think that murdering women and children civilians is acceptable (which you clearly do), you are as evil as you believe Hamas to be.
Your rant above is so deluded and all over the place that I would just ask anyone with any sense of decency to read your dreck and tell me that you're not the sickest most delusional azzwipe currently on the CL comments board. Go ahead readers.
"You may want to discuss the details of the "occupation," as you call it, or debate the history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but I'm not interested in that."
I know you're not. Because you're a bigoted piece of garbage who knows nothing about what you say. Why am I not surprised.
What Hamas is doing is the classic definition of resistance fighting. I wonder how I would act if I lived in a densely populated area short on every supply needed just for basic needs, not to mention the luxuries that Westerners take so much for granted that they think them necessities. I wonder, if my occupier were powerful and had every military and economic advantage, and all I had was my own (hungry and deprived) life, how would I choose to fight back... If I chose that route at all, rather than to just exist, watching the narrow lives and non-existent options available to my hungry children?
I don't condone lobbing small, ineffective rockets into civilian areas. But I think the Palestinian options are extremely limited to fight with every available resource (ie make existence uncomfortable for people in a position to negotiate change) or give up and choose to live with never enough. This assumption I am making for those who truly just want to have enough to eat, some basic comforts, and to provide for their children while offering then real options for a better life.
The death to Israel militants who will stop at nothing short of genocide are, I want to believe, I so desperately a WANT to believe, in a minority.
I don't think there will ever be peace until we, those of us in a position to influence our law-makers, are willing to look beyond the labels and ask ourselves some really tough questions (while educating ourselves along the way). Instead of labeling Palestinians as vicious animal, ask why? Why are they lobbing small rockets at what amounts to an angry giant with the means to squish them under its indifferent feet?
Dearest bed-wetting liberals, I challenge to defend the way Islam treats women, treats gay people, treats prisoners, punishes those who will not convert. Don't forget they detest all westerners, including liberals and atheists.
So while you think you have found a friend in those who hate Christians and Jews, like yourself, they don't differentiate between you and them.
Most ironic is the fact that most Jews in the US are liberal Democrats that voted for a man who had a Muslim father. Guaranteed if it was the reverse, it would not hold true.
bloodgimp: "...I wonder if that's because they've been treated like caged animals for decades by the garbage Likud party?"
Yes, but you left out the word "rabid" for some reason.
"...You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you."
No, you have no idea what I'm talking about. I wax a little too poetic sometimes, but what I mean is that you should get over your self-righteous, delusional, distorted view of the world and then maybe you'll see how backwards you are. The Israeli goverment is good (as governments go), and Hamas is bad (absolutely). It's very plain.
I'm not talking about a territorial dispute. I'm talking about good and evil and about your inability to distinguish between the two. I'm not really blaming you. I blame your obviously flawed mental faculties. Your distaste for violence and your inclination to defend the weak simply because they are weak comes from a good place, but it's misguided and misplaced. It's incorrect.
I understand that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, but I'm here to tell you that your freedom figher is a terrorist. Hamas has been given numerous opportunities to foster peace and to engage in peaceful discussion, and what have they done instead? They've planned and plotted and gathered rockets and fired those rockets into populated civilian areas. They don't want peace, so they don't deserve peace. Gandhi deserved peace, and he got it eventually, but he didn't strap a bomb to his chest and walk into a crowded market or kidnap, rape, maim, or torture anyone.
I prefer the Gandhi type of freedom fighter over these people. They don't deserve peace, and they will never have peace because for them peace means the destruction of Israel. Well, maybe they'll get that someday, but not without committing a genocide of their own. Not without exterminating all Jews, which is their ultimate aim. They have stated that this is their ultimate aim, several times, but you people ignore that, and imagine that they don't really mean it. Maybe they're just frustrated and weak and oppressed, so they're justified in feeling that way. Maybe you just agree with them. Death to Israel.
The word "terrorist" used to mean something. Now it means nothing, because of people like you who believe that good and evil are simply relative terms and not black and white concepts. In case you forgot, or in case you never learned it, a terrorist is someone who purposefully kills innocents or civilians or non-combatants. They're not shooting rockets at an opposing army or at an enemy's infrastructure. They're shooting rockets at a country. They're targeting a race. They consider ALL Jews to be guilty, not just the Likud party. So, they're racists, too. It's never wrong to kill a terrorist, as far as I'm concerned.
You may want to discuss the details of the "occupation," as you call it, or debate the history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but I'm not interested in that. I know you probably think "they started it" (the Israelis), but that argument solves nothing.
It's no secret that the Jews are pretty much despised all over the middle east, but I think the Jews are less to blame for that than anyone. Maybe you disagree. I don't know, I'm guessing. I'm not interested in the daily plight of the average Palestinian. I'm more interested in how any sane person can look at a group like Hamas or Hezbollah and conclude: "Boy, these really are good people deep down, and I would do the same thing if I were in their position." Backwards.
Being a defender of the weak in this case doesn't make you a good person, it just makes you stupid. The Palestinians are not being "persecuted" or oppressed. They're simply getting what they deserve. They're getting exactly what they want: war and destruction. Are there some Palestinians who just want peace? Who don't hate America and don't want to destroy all Jews? Sure, but a lot fewer than you think. Not enough to stop Hamas, even if they wanted to. Some people deserve to be suppressed, or oppressed, or stopped by any means necessary. Some people get what they deserve. And the Palestinian people should think twice about supporting Hamas. Maybe they shouldn't have allowed that kind of evil to fester and spread in their midst. Maybe they'll get on board the peace train someday, but I'm not holding my breath.
I see the Israelis yesterday took my advice and dropped leaflets in Gaza warning people to get out of the way of the bombs. Good for them. That's not something Hamas or their ilk would ever do. Because they're animals. Go ahead and defend Hamas now. I haven't heard enough of that in this thread.
@ sana 11 iregardless of whether the suras(muhameds revelations) are in chronological order or not does not mean that he did not say them . The fact of the matter you cant label yourself a religion of peace if your prophet condones violence.
"Of course Hamas refused a ceasefire. They're terrorists, and they have the psychological makeup of a rabid, caged animal (a rabid, caged animal all hopped up on religion and jihad)."
Jeez, I wonder if that's because they've been treated like caged animals for decades by the garbage Likud party? You're doing a lot yapping about "reality" without addressing the ongoing occupation, about which you apparently know nothing. Why don't you just start there. Also, you have yet to address the body count during this blitz: almost 200 Palestinians killed, 0 Israelis. Yet the Palestinians are the aggressors. Ugh.
"The world is not a backdrop for your selfie."
What?! You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you.
It's easy for Noah to say the Author cheapened his arguments but didn't say why. All the apple polishing he did doesn't hide how much of a wing nut he is.
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