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Re: “Residents, preservationists facepalm over Engineer's Bookstore demolition plan

If it were not for community resistance, Georgia Tech would have bulldozed Crum and Forster 10 times over--trust me on that--much like Georgia State tried to demolish the Bell building more recently.

Having street front retail in Midtown might seem like a no brainer today due to ever increasing pedestrian traffic and vibrant street life, but it was not always the case. A decade or so ago when these regulations took effect these retail spaces sat empty for a long time.

What has happened to Midtown in the past decade is nothing short of astonishing, and the West Midtown and other Intown places are not so far behind. It is hard to be a witness to all of that and be cynical.

By and large the city is moving in the right direction as far as urbanization is concerned, which is why the cases like the Engineering Bookstore attract so much attention these days. With continued efforts and engagement of the citizens of this city, it will get harder for selfish or shortsighted developers to screw thing up.

Posted by atlantan109 on 07/26/2016 at 8:45 PM

Re: “Democratic National Convention Day 1: Greetings, Philadelphia

What a fucking clown show. A mile to walk to the arena? IDK, they only had 4 FUCKING YEARS to plan it...but lets face it, this ain't the common sense party.

Personally, I like the 9 foot fence erected around the compound.....I wonder if you need an ID to get in?

I am not a fan of Trump, but goddam, at some point, somebody has to say it, He might be nuts, but these fuckers are rotten to the core, AND incompetent.

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Posted by The Truth on 07/26/2016 at 6:22 PM

Re: “College Park mayor threatens retribution if newspaper publishes unflattering story

No disrespect to any who live there, but College Park is often ranked the most unsafe city in GA and arguably among the most unsafe in America. Get crime under control and it can become a beautiful place to live and visit.

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Posted by Voxpopuli on 07/26/2016 at 6:13 PM

Re: “Residents, preservationists facepalm over Engineer's Bookstore demolition plan

"The midtown neighbors were able to force Georgia Tech to leave the front of the historic Crum and Forster building intact"
Pyrrhic victory. Getting a public university to leave up a partial facade isn't exactly caving into preservation efforts.
1000 sq ft ground level retail on a 30 story tower doesn't take money out of the pockets of developers either. The point is that the developers rule the roost and the neighborhood associations by and large are powerless. If anything the NPUs get thrown a very small bone which costs the developers little or no profit. In Atlanta city government supports the developers, money talks, and what the neighborhood associations say is barely registered.

Arguably NPU-F packs some punch but that is because of their very close ties to the city council, IIRC their major victories came against the ABI which is hardly a well versed for profit real estate development firm.

In the US, by far the most effective way to change what is built is through zoning laws. Otherwise large developers can simply sue a city to its knees, regardless of the well intentioned cries of neighborhood associations.

Posted by Voxpopuli on 07/26/2016 at 6:08 PM

Re: “College Park mayor threatens retribution if newspaper publishes unflattering story

To Tom Turkey, that is why you have that name. You don't know what you are talking about and are too cowardly to put your real name out there. You have probably not even been to our great city.

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Posted by AliciaR on 07/26/2016 at 6:04 PM

Re: “Residents, preservationists facepalm over Engineer's Bookstore demolition plan

@ atlantan109
I was involved back then because I was cynical about what the State Highway Department was attempting to do.
I can see that a focused response to a question is not one of your strengths.

Posted by Burroughston Broch on 07/26/2016 at 5:49 PM

Re: “Residents, preservationists facepalm over Engineer's Bookstore demolition plan

I am thrilled that this comment thread has veered into a discussion about effective neighborhood associations and I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. It's not a neighborhood association, but I would argue that Neighborhood Planning Unit F is pretty damn powerful.

Posted by Thomas Wheatley on 07/26/2016 at 4:39 PM

Re: “College Park mayor threatens retribution if newspaper publishes unflattering story

Keep thinking College Park is not great 😊 lol

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Posted by waynekeith318 on 07/26/2016 at 4:16 PM

Re: “Democratic National Convention Day 1: Greetings, Philadelphia

Biggest question of the day - will Putin get the Pulitzer?

How ya'll like that Wikileaks NOW?

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Posted by oydave on 07/26/2016 at 3:18 PM

Re: “Residents, preservationists facepalm over Engineer's Bookstore demolition plan

Not so fast Vox. The midtown neighbors were able to force Georgia Tech to leave the front of the historic Crum and Forster building intact, and build their proposed tower around it.

As someone who claims to live or work around Midtown, you should know that the boom that is going on there is not just due to sheer dumb luck. In particular, at some point it was mandated that new towers should have ground level retail, which has had a tremendous impact on street life.

The main problem, as has been pointed out, is outdated zoning laws which are anti urban and tie neighbor's hands. Once these get changed, as it appears that they will, then things will continue to improve even more.

Posted by atlantan109 on 07/26/2016 at 3:12 PM

Re: “College Park mayor threatens retribution if newspaper publishes unflattering story

LOL that Indigo is there for the airport, not because College Park is so freaking great, c'mon now

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Posted by Graybeard Styles on 07/26/2016 at 3:06 PM

Re: “Residents, preservationists facepalm over Engineer's Bookstore demolition plan

Midtown Alliance is arguably the most powerful neighborhood association in the city, and even their concerns fell on deaf ears when it came to development, bars/nightclubs etc.

(Getting Fuqua to 'agree' to build even more alongside the big-box retailer on the beltline property he owned showed me just how powerless neighborhood associations are presently)

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Posted by Voxpopuli on 07/26/2016 at 2:07 PM

Re: “Residents, preservationists facepalm over Engineer's Bookstore demolition plan

Good to know that you were not always as negative and cynical as you are today. Now I suppose you can go troll someone else as I do not have time to reply to any more of your comments.

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Posted by atlantan109 on 07/26/2016 at 2:06 PM

Re: “Democratic National Convention Day 1: Greetings, Philadelphia

Some great speeches by the heavy hitters on the progressive side of the platform (Booker, Michelle Obama, Warren, Sanders), but I still think it is going to be a struggle to get HRC's net favorable numbers up.
She simply hasn't been a likable person throughout her political career, and is extremely fortunate to be running against Trump or the election wouldn't even be close (and vice-versa).

WJClintons speech tonight and the reception it gets should interesting.

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Posted by Voxpopuli on 07/26/2016 at 2:02 PM

Re: “Residents, preservationists facepalm over Engineer's Bookstore demolition plan

@ atlantan109
Came up dry, didn't you?
Don't bother lecturing me about the Stone Mountain Freeway as I was living off Ponce then and was involved with the protests. But that protest was against the State Highway Department (now GDOT), not the City. And it took 20 years to come to a final resolution.

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Posted by Burroughston Broch on 07/26/2016 at 1:47 PM

Re: “Metro Atlanta’s HIV epidemic among gay and bisexual men must end

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Posted by Shown William on 07/26/2016 at 1:28 PM

Re: “Burning down the house with hot jokes

Hotlanta, much like Ed Hardy clothing, simply can never be ironically good.

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Posted by Reed doesn't care about common people on 07/26/2016 at 1:16 PM

Re: “College Park mayor threatens retribution if newspaper publishes unflattering story

There are two swanky Indigo Hotels in Atlanta - one is at the Fox theater and the other one is next to the College Park MARTA station. Maybe they know something that you don't.

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Posted by jd 1 on 07/26/2016 at 1:06 PM

Re: “College Park mayor threatens retribution if newspaper publishes unflattering story

College Park is a schitthole anyway.

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Posted by Tom Turkey on 07/26/2016 at 12:43 PM

Re: “First Slice 7/26/16: AHA approves $150 million mixed-use development for former Herndon Homes site

The problem is pretending some of our neighbors do not exist by failing to acknowledge them.

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Posted by Kira on 07/26/2016 at 12:41 PM

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