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Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

@ Roxanne Dimacale

Posted by Burroughston Broch on 07/23/2016 at 12:18 PM

Re: “Atlanta's Urban Cowboy gets put out to pasture

Two years later...

Posted by Tara Baker on 07/20/2016 at 2:51 PM

Re: “Home invasions plague Capitol View

It is July 2016 and my wife and I are considering moving to Adair Park or Capital View. We are looking intensively. The parks and architecture are beautiful. We cannot wait to find the right home. Do you know of anyone that is planning to sell soon?

Are there unsafe areas of AP and CV? I have been told that the west side of Adair Park across Sylvan Road is not as safe. I appreciate your counsel. Thank you!

Posted by Happycouple on 07/19/2016 at 9:25 AM

Re: “BMF co-leaders sentenced

They were a product of their environment, if they grew up in suburbia they would be running a fortune 500 company...prison I feel like is never the answer..there has to be a better form of rehabilitation for certain criminals, burying them under a prison isn't where they need to be!!!

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Posted by intelligentstreets1208 on 07/11/2016 at 1:53 PM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

I am curious, Mr. Driskell by what you said about Fulton County's General Fund. It is my understanding that South Fulton already pays for its own Fire, Police protection, parks and recreation, and environmental and zoning activities via the South Fulton Special Services District Fund (SSD). South Fulton has already been operating as a city anyway, but without a charter. This vote will get us our charter.

The items in the General Fund are covered for ALL cities in Fulton County, including the County Attorney, 911, Grady Hospital, Libraries, State and Superior Court Judges. Perhaps I am missing something, but South Fulton becoming a city will not suddenly transfer responsibility for all of these things to South Fulton only, will it? We will continue to pay our share - as we do today.

Plus, South Fulton becoming a city would make us eligible to receive approximately $20 million in Local Option Sales Tax (LOST), which we do not receive today because we are not a city.

You also mentioned about the feasibility study. The Sandy Springs feasibility study was done in 2003 - 2 years before their incorporation vote in 2005. South Fulton HAS done a detailed study (2014). See pages 6-10 in the 'Georgia State University study' link in the article. When I compare the 2 reports, its the same type of information - just organized differently.

I do not understand why South Fulton is being held to a different standard than other cities who have voted for incorporation:

* For example, Chattahoochee Hills voted "Yes" for cityhood in 2007. Their comprehensive plan was only developed after the election of the Mayor and City Council, with citizen input: "...Beginning in December of 2009, the Mayor and City Council began recruiting citizens to work on the Comprehensive Plan."

* The citizens of Milton voted "Yes" for cityhood in 2006; their comprehensive plan was created in 2008.

* The citizens of Johns Creek voted "Yes" for cityhood in 2006 also; their comprehensive plan was adopted in 2008.

What we as citizens of South Fulton can do now is vote "yes" on cityhood on November 8, 2016. To get the facts, please visit Once we vote "yes" and are incorporated, we then elect our Mayor and City Council. They will be accountable to act in our community's best interest.

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Posted by floydk on 07/01/2016 at 7:51 PM

Re: “Death of a restaurateur

This is a sad case, however what happened to rehabilitation? This (Taylor) was a young boy who made a mistake. Nothing will bring Mr Luck back however, Mr Taylor should (all these years later) be assessed which would no doubt prove he is not a threat to society. He should be allowed the chance to contribute to society and fully right his wrongs! He is no longer a young boy, he is a man now and people change! This man could be an example to why the death penalty is wrong! He deserves a chance, not his life taken. This will solve or change nothing, this I know from experience! What happened to in God we trust? Two wrongs do not make a right! He without sin....

Posted by Think Straight People on 06/29/2016 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

Commenting as an unincorporated South Fulton citizen, the reasons to vote yes include:

* Many of us are dissatisfied with the level of services that Fulton County provides
* Do not want our children forced to attend Atlanta public schools
* Want to have a voice in how our tax dollars are spent
* Want leadership who actually lives in this area - for transparency and accountability of government.

Think about this: If you have chest pain regularly, would you keep on ignoring the problem in hopes that things will get better on their own? Would you ignore the problem because an acquaintance (who never had a chest pain in his life) tells you that you don't need to go to a doctor?

He whispers in your ear that a doctor might cause more problems or tries to make you suspicious that the doctor may have an ulterior motive.

Would you take this acquaintance's advice? No, you are smarter than that. You realize that it won't affect his life one way or the other if you heeded his advice and ended up having a heart attack! He'll keep on living his life just fine. After all, he had no "skin in the game."

But you'll be the one living with the consequences, experiencing the pain. All because you ignored the signs that were speaking to you in your daily life.

I am writing to those who live in the area and are undecided about the vote. I am convinced that the City of South Fulton is in our best interest based upon what is happening in our area NOW.

To see why it is in our best interest to vote "Yes," please visit (quick video) or has FAQs and other information.

If we do not "Vote Yes," on November 8, then forces outside of unincorporated South Fulton will continue to dictate what happens in an area that most of them don't even live in and whose daily lives won't be affected one way or the other. We cannot afford to be silent on this issue.

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Posted by floydk on 06/28/2016 at 5:33 PM

Re: “Traffic court's unwanted intervention

I got a headlight-off (accidently!) citation two weeks ago, and due to some strangely nefarious circumstances (a completely unwarranted George Zimmerman-esque line of questioning and a thorough, if unsuccessful, probable cause tag search; I thank the Almighty that I wasn't dragged out of my car and beaten to death or found hung in a cell like so many unfortunates of color), two weeks later and one of these PTIT postcard shows up. Thankfully, I Googled this thread and got at least a few answers to what the heck this is all about, as the postcard explains little of nothing.

Not in the least because this is an election year, with a HOTLY multi-way contested Fulton Co. Solicitor runoff race yet to be decided, it seems like this program may have been trotted out more kindly than in years past, as I think the current SG is running for reelection. But the circumstances surrounding outright dismissal of those aforementioned seem sketchy at best to me. Though the fine isn't in dispute, the overtly racially biased profiling behavior is something that I plan on addressing with that officer's zone commander, the solicitor general, and my city council person.

PTIT aside, I will address my grievances with that officer in a manner befitting the circumstances. But am I to understand that most of these cases are being adjudicated to cut down on court backlog (now that the SG wants to tell voters he's cut down on it to save his job), and may be thrown out if the officer doesn't come to court? Are there any other circumstances which would cause my fees to be dropped and/or eliminated?

Another the best of my understanding, there is supposed to be a price list of moving violations somewhere from PTIT, despite the fact that they're discretionary? At least a range?
I forgot to turn my headlights on. I didn't try to kill the President. I'm on a tight budget, and without having the slightest cue what this might cost, I can't begin to plan on paying anything in full.

Though I hope 100.00 will cover it, will I have to check w/the City of Atlanta for additional fees?

Any assistance provided would be awesome😚

Posted by F78 on 06/25/2016 at 11:26 PM

Re: “Why are some new Atlanta firefighters and policemen making more than veterans?

It's been a long time since I have seen a raise, something like 10 years. When the city finally decided we have suffered enough they give there version of compression pay. It basically leaves anyone who has been employed with fire department for more than 15 years and in there current position for 10+ years with the current pay scale. They were kind enough to leave a crumb of a one time only 3% bonus for us though. That should make up for the past Ten years of getting nothing.
Where is the equity in this. I feel like just a got gut punched. I don't know why anyone would want to come work here. The CityAtlanta treats the department like life insurance. You got to have it you don't want to pay for it.
Dont worry this does mot change my dedication to the people I serve. I do my job no matter the pay. To bad the city no that too.
Be safe

Posted by fightfire on 06/21/2016 at 11:19 AM

Re: “Residents along Westside Trail push back against demolition plans

@ Atlanta Steel. You can't replicate authenticity, and these buildings tell a story. The buildings are made of steel and brick, not stucco like all the other crap they replace authentic well built buildings with along the BeltLine. It is also an environmental waste to fill up yet another landfill to be replaced with something of inferior, mostly plastic, materials with shelf life of 30-40 years.

Posted by jim on 06/15/2016 at 2:16 PM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

@ floydk
Atlanta City will tax you for services and then use your taxes over time to build the infrastructure to actually provide those services. It will take years to accomplish.
I cannot understand why anyone would swap the Atlanta Public Schools for the Fulton County Schools.

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Posted by Burroughston Broch on 06/10/2016 at 9:46 AM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

I was curious when I read Corro'll Driskell comment that he wants to see "a detailed plan of city operations and a budget that lists what services could be offered and at what cost — something more like the detailed study the people behind Sandy Springs published before that city's 2005 incorporation vote." The article pointed to the equivalent of a Sandy Springs feasibility study that was done in 2003 - which was done 2 years before their incorporation vote. South Fulton HAS done a detailed study (2014). See pages 6-10 in the 'Georgia State University study' link in the article. When I compare the 2 reports, its the same type of information - just organized differently.

For anyone who is interested in the financial viability of a new city of South Fulton, watch the quick video at It is very informative. I was shocked to see how much money we are paying into the tax system and how little we are getting back in terms of service. My home was burglarized 2 years ago and it took 2 HOURS for police to come.

My husband and I are participating in Fulton County Citizens University and the Fulton County fire chief told us that the City of Atlanta has to contract with them to provide services to the southern parts of the city. So, if a fire occurs at Mayor Reed's house, the City of Atlanta won't put it out - Fulton County will!

So the question becomes - if the City of Atlanta annexes the areas they are petitioning for in unincorporated South Fulton, how will the City of Atlanta provide service to them when they can't adequately service the folks they have already?

We have the knowledge, talent, and skills in South Fulton to have local control. Now is our time for our new city charter, given that we are already paying our own way.

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Posted by floydk on 06/10/2016 at 7:46 AM

Re: “A new spot for the Stein Club?

I miss The Stein Club too! It was a small place but I had so much fun there! How Cool was the outside patio but had the cool white rocks and picnic tables. Favorite song "Straight to Hell" Drivin' N' Cryin' It made Monday nights my favorite part of the week! 💖☺

Posted by SapphireSong91 on 05/23/2016 at 2:36 PM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

With the national average life expectancy being 74.79 years for white men and 67.66 years for black men and 79.84 years for white women in comparison to 74.64 years for black women, it is clear that the statistical odds of living longer than whites in many states seems bleak.

Maybe Reed should bike to work and ditch his high cost taxpayer funded SUV!

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Posted by Reed's middle life crisis on 05/19/2016 at 12:10 PM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

Word to all in Atlanta: read all of Hravey Davis's wonderful blogs and nice words. And please consider that when you are looking to employ this unemployed person.

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Posted by Truth is in the words on 05/18/2016 at 8:40 PM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

Let's not fool ourselves, its all about the (black) votes. The next election can finally kick-out the corrupt political machine that has been running Atlanta for the last 30 years or so. They will do anything they can to stay in power and in the interim are making all the deals they can.
The citizens of South Fulton need to do is look at history, and vote for their own self interests. Don't fall for platitudes and empty promises like so many other neighborhoods have suffered though for generations. Don't be taken for granted, or worse yet, suckers.

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Posted by Voxpopuli on 05/18/2016 at 12:30 PM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

Ah yes, the calling card of cityhood supporters.

When confronted with facts they do not like, those facts are distorted and those posting the facts are corrupt.

Here is a simple yes or no question:

Is it not true that the feasibility study claiming south Fulton is financially viable is now more than two years old; and is it not further true that the feasibility study is based upon a map that, as a practical matter, no longer exists?

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Posted by South Fulton Facts on 05/18/2016 at 7:58 AM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

Facts as posted by Kesiha Lance Bottoms and corrupt supporters. Many distorted facts listed above.

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Posted by South Fulton will succeed on 05/18/2016 at 3:02 AM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

After the first City of South Fulton bill passed, in 2006, Fairburn and Union City received tons of annexation petitions. Those two cities approved most of the annexation requests, which gave unincorporated south Fulton its jagged shape of today. The feasibility study, that was released before a single annexation took place, said the proposed city was financially viable. But voters continuously raised questions about how large an effect those annexations had on the tax base. In light of that confusion, the referendum failed because there was no confidence that the numbers were sound without massive tax increases.

They were right.

Between 2007 and 2013, the south Fulton County millage rate increased from 5.659 to 12.469. 2015 was the first time south Fulton's taxes were lowered; the county commission voted to set the rate at 11.579.

Fast forward to this year, and you have the same thing happening in 2016 that occurred in 2007. With the 1 July 2016 deadline looming, property owners are submitting annexation petitions to Atlanta, College Park, Union City, and Chattahoochee Hills. These are all valuable pieces of property. The feasibility study, released in 2014, hasn't factored any of these annexations into the equation.

The difference this time is that the 2016 City of South Fulton bill caps the property tax rate at 14.469 for the first five years of the city's existence. Obviously that means if taxes can't be raised, then services must be cut to balance the budget.

Unfortunately, the 2014 feasibility study says South Fulton services are already below Dept. of Community Affairs averages.

This is an actual quote from the feasibility study:

"Police is the highest expenditure category for the low and high DCA averages with spending from $219-$246 per capita. The [South Fulton Special Services District (SSD)] currently spends less than the average amount at $174 per capita. For fire, the DCA average is about $170 for both low and high averages; the SSD currently spends $160 per capita. For highways and streets the DCA city average is roughly $80 per capita for both low and high averages. In FY2012, Fulton County spent $50 per capita in the SSD, considerably below the DCA averages."

Creating this city now is a bad idea.

There are just too many questions lingering out there for south Fulton residents, like myself, to confidently cast a yes vote.

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Posted by South Fulton Facts on 05/17/2016 at 3:47 PM

Re: “Hello to a City of South Fulton?

City of Atlanta is trying diligently to stop us from having our day at the voting booth. We as a people should understand the relevance of government stopping us from voting. Before the 15th Amendment was passed, your government instituted a "poll tax" that every person of color had to pass. Questions like how many stars are in the sky or something that you would not have an answer to. Now it is politics, albeit dirty politics that is playing out. Mayor Reid is trying his best to annex all of the land that he wants into the city of Atlanta prior to July 1st, 2016. They have presented petitions with names that are being challenged by the citizens of unincorporated South Fulton. We need your assistance to help fight this battle!! Tomorrow will be too late as you might wake up one day and find yourself annexed into Atlanta whether you like it or not. What that could mean for you is that your children will have to attend the Atlanta City Schools and not Fulton County, your taxes will most likely increase and your services will possibly deteriorate based on the fact that City of Atlanta will not and cannot currently provide services to their existing residents. How will they take care of you if you need emergency services? I for one would not want to face that possibility.

Some say, but a new city?? How will that benefit me? Won't we have the same issues that we would face if we were annexed? The answer is no, the reason why is because we have been operating as a city without the title for over 10 years. The businesses that are located within the proposed city boundaries (the majority of them) want to come into the new city and not be annexed into Atlanta. You will not have to deal with the bureaucratic mess that is called Atlanta. Your neighbors will either be the mayor or on the council. You will have local control. Better roads, better infrastructure, a local police force that can respond to your public safety issues and the ability to bring businesses into our area that can provide meaningful employment. A downtown that is not haphazardly thrown together and the biggest win of them all, YOUR VOICE WILL MATTER!!

Please review the documents that I have attached and let's get to work so that YOUR VOICE MATTERS!! Most of the documents are being challenged as not legal as their are issues with some/most of the signatures. Some residents who signed in favor of City of Atlanta feel duped and want their names off of the petitions. They now understand the ramifications of being sucked into City of Atlanta. They understand that they will have to attend APS not FCS. You need to understand that you will lose at least 3 schools and that your children will be overcrowded for at least 5 years as that is how long it takes to allocate funds for new schools. You have to understand that your property tax values on your homes will possibly decrease if annexation happens. You will have to understand that you have no say so in what is built in your areas. Maybe apartment complexes, more low retail establishments, reallocation of low income homes, increased crime etc!!

The name of the city won't be South Fulton but more than likely the students that attend the schools within the new city boundaries will have the ability to enter a name into a contest and we will vote on the name for the city. Think about it folks, how many times in your life do you get a chance to build a new city? I know I haven't and I am excited just thinking about the possibilities. We have to remember that what we do today will affect our children tomorrow. I want to leave a lasting about you?

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Posted by YES WE CAN!! on 05/17/2016 at 2:47 PM

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