Another Colab event coming up this Saturday with over 750 said to be attending and countless others say they might be attending. You guys know the drill - keep it out of the neighborhood and there won't be an issue. Keep the neighbors (including children and those who work Sunday mornings) up all night/morning and I am sure a call will be made to the Police. Show some respect.
We would call Troy, but I understand a bench warrant was issued when he missed his court date? Is he the best person to call when we need you to turn it down? We do want to call you first, just need to know who to call.
My primary request is to please explain to your hundreds of teens from the burbs that wandering around SW Atlanta in a fairly abandoned area at 3am under the influence of alcohol and mind altering drugs is not wise. Please keep an eye on your guests, the criminal element will figure your schedule out in time and will begin targeting you. And those guys are worse than the cops. Just ask any number of our neighbors who have had homes and cars broken into.
Other than that, have a blast!
Wow, Curious. One definitely has to be curious of your motives. You seem like someone that is directly threatened by this venue and it's tenants and owners.
I wish everyone at CoLab my best and hope all of your drama is short-lived and that you are successful and triumphant over your myriad of obstacles, including Mr. Curious here. I'd watch that guy. Anyone that threatens to involve dfacs to obtain their personal goals or vendetta is a real piece of shit. If I had to guess, I bet he is in this industry. Jus sayin...
seriously? a sex party? way to listen to the news.
Does anyone remember the fire at the Metropolitan Warehouse (formerly known as the Candler / Smith Warehouses) a few years ago?
The owners of the property were illegally renting out Industrial spaces for Residential use. A woman and her 2 children died in a nighttime fire, because sprinkler systems were not functioning. It was a very sad outcome resulting from some untoward property management practices.
All this talk about art and parties and noise aside, the Colab is purportedly home to a number of permanent residents, including 1 child, "living in squalor".
I'd like to know if the responsible parties of the Colab - either the underlying property owners or the leaseholders - have secured the proper Certificates of Occupancy from the City of Atlanta to allow the facility to be leased for Residential use? The property is currently zoned I-2 Industrial, which explicitly does not allow such a use.
I would also like to know if the responsible parties understand the consequences of illegally leasing property, especially where a minor is involved.
That's all I have for the moment.
when is the next sex party I would like some oral sex lol ....... you should be shut down for good .....
All the charges so far do seem unfounded. I am not a lawyer, but I can speculate about such issues.
The issue with CoLab and the use of the building seems simple. It is an issue of fire safety and occupancy load.
See, since that deadly fire at that Great White concert in RI a few years back, authorities are all anal about large gatherings of people in un-sprinkled buildings.
Now, I have never been to CoLab, but I would imagine since its 'allowed use', probably is industrial, it has a legally low occupancy load (defined as a limit to the number of people who can safely occupy the building, according to various factors). Without a sprinkler system, the International fire code says the occupancy can be only up to 300 people.
Great for art revenue, sucks for party revenue.
What CoLab has probably done (or should do) is ask for a "change of use" to allow for more occupancy than currently allowed, a process we went through at S4.
Everything seemed fine there until a few promoters decided to turn the art center into a party place. Again, this is speculation, but based on past knowledge, this stuff about alcohol or dance hall violations is indeed bogus.
The one thing we did learn is when it comes to noise or nuisance, neighbor input is powerful at all levels.
Sparr, I really do apologize for people wanting to sleep and have their children sleep. How demanding we are! Now, I am no attorney like Mr. Bugbee here, but a quick search came across a few interesting notes related to your opinion that we should sit back and just put up with it.
As to everyone else in Colab, Adair Park Today has adopted a "sit back and watch" approach in regards to Colab, except for the noise. Troy's number will be passed around to the neighbors that are closest to Colab, and if the noise is too high, he will be called first, before the Police. Now, back to that quick search I did. Again, this might not apply to industrial, which may be the loophole you found.
- During nighttime hours, sound emanating from any noise source shall be limited in volume, tone and intensity so that the sound shall not be plainly audible to any person at a distance of 50 or more feet from the real property line of any private property on which the noise source is located, or from any noise source located on any public property or public right-or-way.
Both of these were under "specific prohibitions"
- The operating or playing of any radio, television, phonograph, musical instrument or similar device which produces or reproduces sound in a manner as to be plainly audible at a distance of 15 meters (50 feet) to any person in a commercial, industrial, residential or noise-sensitive area, multifamily dwelling, motor vehicle or public space.
- Loudspeakers and sound amplifiers. The use or operation of any loudspeaker system, sound amplifier or other similar device between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. on weekdays, and 10:00 p.m. and 10:00 a.m. on weekends and holidays, within or adjacent to residential or noise-sensitive areas, public rights-of-way or public space such that the sound therefrom is plainly audible across the real property line of the source; provided that this shall not apply to any public performance, gathering or parade for which a permit has been obtained from the city, nor shall it apply to performances at the Chastain Park Amphitheater or at any amphitheater constructed upon the Lakewood Fairgrounds whenever the same is governed by another ordinance or by contract as to acceptable levels of sound and as to hours.
I think part of the misunderstanding is some of the Adair Park residents think that the noise shouldn't reach their homes, while that isn't a factor in the legal part of the dispute at all. 60dB at the fence is still going to be plenty audible a few hundred feet away, and if it resonates with part of a building then even more so.
You don't have to knock on CoLab's door. You could call them. Troy has given his phone number to your neighborhood association president, who I expect would give it to you.
i think that some of the frustrations with the apd is that so many of them showed up to shut down a party, yet where are they when so many houses in that area are being robbed and vandalized. our neighbors on pearce st had their door kicked in and they were robbed in broad daylight. houses are being vandalized and stripped of copper and hvac systems and eventually are boarded up because it's too expensive to keep replacing everything. i don't think the promoter of that party brought vandals to the neighborhood...they were already here. it would be great to see the police show in force for real crimes as they did to shut down a party....
Quick comment then I will leave you people to it. Sparr again blames the neighborhood of Adair Park for calling the cops on the noise as if the huge rave was OUR FAULT. Take some responsibility for once. Blaring music until 4am (when the party was busted) and until 6am other nights is not being a good neighbor.
On Lexington I know of a woman that has to be at work at 6am on weekends and there is a family with an infant in one of the houses. Knocking on a neighbors door 2 doors down in an apartment building is one thing. Walking from your house to a party with around 1000 people at 3am with cars all over the street is not many people's idea of a way to spend their Saturday Nights/Sunday mornings. Troy and Rebecca and Lovelace have all been quite apologetic and seem pretty cool from what I have heard from those who met them at the cookout and on other posts. We think it is awesome in Adair park and love that you guys have taken up a corner used for dumping. However, please get over yourself and realize this was a situation you caused, not the neighbors, and get over it. Please continue doing what you are doing, minus the thump thump thump until past daybreak. :-)
Thank you No One Is Perfect for being mature enough to realize that some of your party guests do not share the same vision and desires as you. Someone posted something on the other CL blog about the partiers trashing some artwork. THAT is the type of people your party promoters brought here.
As far as steps to control the sound, we in Adair Park appreciate it, but for your big parties it sure as hell ain't working.
You may now continue with your regularly scheduled APD witch hunt. :-) We love you Colab minus raves until daybreak!
Calling CoLab's location "West End" is no worse than calling Sandy Springs "Atlanta". If you live in West End, you know where the boundaries are. If you live 20 miles away, there is no such place as "Adair Park" or "Mechanicsville" or "Westview". To the average Atlanta resident, "West End" is comprised of everything within a couple of miles of the West End MARTA station, in the same way that to the average non-resident "Atlanta" is comprised of everything within XX miles of the perimeter.
Thanks, Skogwalker, for clarifying!
This reporter seems not to know where West End is. So here are the boudaries: Lee St. on the East, to I-20 on the North to Langhorn on the West thence following Langhorn to White Street on the South and back to Lee St.
CoLab is in the warehouse district between West End and Adair Park neighborhoods. Historic West End is a National Historic District; reporters should know this, even if others don't. As for CoLab being "near" West End, I don't have a problem and like the interest from alternative groups; just don't classify West End in "sad shape" because West End has been the hottest neighborhood around and a great place to live for 20 years. Thanks Gwynedd?????? Come Visit the real West End and help your reporting career.
This place is a wonderful place to gather and just enjoy yourself!!! I fel t nothing but love and a great energy there!! And it was great watching the artist and we (the other artist were doing our thing!! THis place is great and I dont see anything bad coming from this place!! It seems like people always want to mess up something that isnt bothering Anybody but the cops!! Can we please just gather in this place and just enjoy our selfs and have a good night?? We arent hurting anyone!!!
The CoLab seems to have a lot of great people behind it. I keep meaning to go to an event there, but life keeps getting in the way (well that, and the website doesn't seem to list all of the events going on there). Soon though!
Anyway, I'm sure that CoLab will be able to work out the differences with the neighbors and come to some compromise. Better soundproofing, further reduction in volume levels, whatever. It is disturbing that this officer seems to have something out against the space, though. The fact that the police and fire chief were going around looking for violations seems pretty sketchy to me. Blocked/impeded exit, fine. But an Exit sign light being out? Really, they had to make a big deal out of that?
Re: the drama, any time you have a group of people there will be some bad apples. Sad fact of life, but I'm sure if anything illegal was done that the people in charge will take care of it.
As I hope is always clear, please know you can always, definitely approach any of us with any issues or concerns you have about people or things that happen at CoLab. You can do it privately. You can do it via phone or email or by grabbing us at a cookout or whatever. We will schedule meetings with people who have concerns.
We want the place to be safe too. Obviously this is a top priority. While I understand that crap happens everywhere, I want to minimize that at CoLab.
Yes, the community polices itself, and should definitely feel free to continue to do so. This is a pretty standard burner approach, and I would love to see CoLab participants "police" themselves and each other, kindly and peacefully. With that said, we definitely will handle any issues that people feel like we should. If you don't feel like we have heard you, please try again. We have a lot going on, so gentle reminders help us get everything done and keep everyone happy.
Thanks for your patience. We're in this together.
@prtygrl05: You haven't talked with ME about what happened with your drink. Please do so. Email me at rebecca(dot)cobb(at)gmail.com. I may arrange a face to face meeting to discuss what happened, b/c clearly that's not cool.
This is, for the record, the first I've heard of this.
Now, let's drop this particular thing from this forum, please.
One of the 10 principles is Civic Responsibility. One is encouraged to assume responsibility and be part of a civil society in which federal, state and local laws are obeyed and communicate this to others.
The whole thing is "Do whatever you want SO LONG AS NOBODY ELSE GETS HURT." "A place not to be judged" does not equal "I can be a creeper and break the law and they can't say anything about it." Are you freaking serious?
@Creative Loafing: Thank you SO SO SO SO SO much for doing a neutral/positive article. I am really looking forward to seeing this be resolved.
Yes that is true but if there is some ass going around doing this to people would you still want to invite that person out to your place knowing that it might happen again?!
I know I sure wouldn't want that around.
if I'm hearing the same thing from a bunch of different people I would put a stop to it and not allow it in my place. That's how a real good vibe gets ruined.
Judging some one or not, it's still something I wouldn't want around and I'm sure every woman out there would agree.
djgobo: isnt the whole point that its where everyone can come without being judged? In other words, saying you need to keep the 'shady people' out kind of ruins the whole idea of being who you are without being afraid of people judging you.
There may have been a lot of young guys there too, just less noticeable I guess than the high school girls in thongs or underwear. Which again, is certainly their right (and your right to have the party), but I agree with the other poster who said that the big parties bring out people who probably may not even know what burning man is. OTP high schoolers coming in because there is an 18+ party...
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