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Re: “Development wants, development gets

Well done Angel, well done. You got a 41k tax credit on a 14k home?

You are 100% right! Your the catalyst for change.

Thanks for the update, and I am proud of you, and I would consider myself fortunate to call you my neighbor.

Posted by The Truth on 11/21/2014 at 9:16 PM

Re: “Development wants, development gets

@ Mark from Atlanta
"What you wrote was that the government was the problem for investing in the neighborhoods: "The government invests tax monies in developments and demands a higher tax return." What you conveniently failed to mention is who has the local governments in their back pockets - the developers."

There you go again trying to twist my words. I am not a fan of developers, having to deal with them in business. BUT, if Detroit and Stockton had a few projects that put more money into the city coffers, they might not have folded like a cheap suit as they did. In risky environments like Detroit and Stockton, developers are often the only investors willing to take the risk. As it was, both cities starved for income and couldn't pay their bloated pension costs. But that's another story.
As for developers and politicians scratching each other's backs, that's no news. Do you think Kasim Reed is the first to demand a quid pro quo?

Posted by Burroughston Broch on 11/21/2014 at 8:35 PM

Re: “Development wants, development gets

You are right: I meant to say it does not *necessarily* mean deforestation, which I think is fairly clear from the context and the rest of the paragraph.

Now, going back to the substance, there are so many trees that have been planted all along the belt line, and the folk involved with this project, including many volunteers, have done a wonderful job of restoring the natural grasses and other plants, where there was only Kudzu. It is probably as green an urban revitalization project that you can find anywhere. An oasis within the city, and hopefully one day all around the core of the city. (My guess is that you probably have not even seen it, because I cannot figure out how you could ever say that it is not smart)

Posted by atlantan109 on 11/21/2014 at 8:12 PM

Re: “Fernbank Forest re-opening in 2016

Ok first stone mountain is turned into six flags 2, now the biggest old growth forest inside the perimeter is turning into a Disney attraction.

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Posted by John Ross Hanna on 11/21/2014 at 8:11 PM

Re: “Fernbank Forest re-opening in 2016

"A fun and invogorating encounter with nature" is not something I think fernbank is qualified to deliver.

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Posted by zedsmith on 11/21/2014 at 6:32 PM

Re: “Development wants, development gets

"Mark, note the subtle, or maybe not so subtle, way you reworded what I said, before starting to reply to it..."
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As is my style I quoted directly from you before replying ("Increasing density or infill does not mean deforestation"). If you do not believe me your original comment is still there. If you miswrote and meant to write that it does not necessarily mean deforestation, stop playing games and own up to it.

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Posted by Mark from Atlanta on 11/21/2014 at 6:31 PM

Re: “Lawmakers, faith leaders, and advocates on Obama's executive action

Mark,
What you said needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

"Obama didn't wait for us and called us out for not legislating, so our solution? No legislating."

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Posted by Graybeard Lyles on 11/21/2014 at 5:39 PM

Re: “Mayor taps Craig Richard to become Invest Atlanta's next leader

When does he get his check for hardship pay?

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Posted by Louisville Struggler on 11/21/2014 at 4:51 PM

Re: “First Slice 11/19/14: Metro Atlanta police arrest black people at a 'staggering' and disproportionate rate, report says

"Are black guys in Atlanta 50 times more likely than white guys to be selling drugs?"

It depends on the neighborhood.

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Posted by Brecko77 on 11/21/2014 at 4:41 PM

Re: “Who should be the next Democratic Party of Georgia chairman?

I can't think of any candidate supported by Reed who has won in recent years. I'd be wary of being too closely associated with him.

It really a testament to the weakness of the politicians of this generation the no one, Black, White or Hispanic, has stepped forward to challenge him, e.g. Hall, Mitchell, Wan, etc.

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Posted by Brecko77 on 11/21/2014 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Mayor taps Craig Richard to become Invest Atlanta's next leader

So our exhaustive search resulted in hiring someone who was most recently fired from a similar position Louisville KY.?
(And I'm willing to be he'll get a raise and is making more than his peers now)

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Posted by Voxpopuli on 11/21/2014 at 4:07 PM

Re: “Fernbank Forest re-opening in 2016

You once could walk in those woods for free. Now thanks to the Fernbank Museum you have to pay for that pleasure and as a bonus they've turned the forest into something just short of an amusement park.

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Posted by c404 on 11/21/2014 at 4:02 PM

Re: “Development wants, development gets

I think that John Ashe hits the nail on the head. The best way to address low income housing is to keep these to as few units as possible in any single location, and instead try to spread them in as wide an area as possible, thereby creating truly mixed income communities.

Living in subdivisions where everyone pretty much has the same income level is boring, and this is something which can be played to the cities advantage.

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Posted by atlantan109 on 11/21/2014 at 3:41 PM

Re: “MARTA prepares for Clayton expansion … and beyond?

"same deficits plague roads in regards to gas taxes"

the major difference being that the state always finds the money for road construction.

e.g. the 285/400 interchange a.k.a Spaghetti Junction II, a pet project of Gov. Bad Deal and his cronies, has gone from early budget of $600 million (during tsplost) to $1 billion now, and surely will go well over that before completed.

lobbyists for road construction have successfully branded their taxpayer funding as 'investment' while any money going to alternatives is denigrated as 'subsidy'

Posted by John Ashe on 11/21/2014 at 3:35 PM

Re: “MARTA prepares for Clayton expansion … and beyond?

"same deficits plague roads in regards to gas taxes"

the major difference being that the state always finds the money for road construction.

e.g. the 285/400 interchange a.k.a Spaghetti Junction II, a pet project of Gov. Bad Deal and his cronies, has gone from early budget of $600 million (during tsplost) to over $1 billion now, and surely will go over budget before completed.

lobbyists for road construction have successfully branded taxpayer funding as 'investment' while any money going to alternatives is labelled 'subsidy'

Posted by John Ashe on 11/21/2014 at 3:29 PM

Re: “Development wants, development gets

one of the Beltline's original promises was to include a substantial portion of affordable housing in the Beltline corridor in order to offset the displacement which this article talks about. yet the article doesn't even mention this component.

there are successful mixed-income developments (which include at least three tiers of rentals: market rate, partially subsidized, fully subsidized) in other cities, and even some in Atlanta though we don't really hear much about it -- likely because of prevailing Nimby attitudes among potential tenants and neighborhood folks.

a fundamental principle of good urbanism: concentrating wealthy residents (resulting in lifeless neighborhoods, or "yuppie theme parks") is no better than concentrating the poor in projects.

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Posted by John Ashe on 11/21/2014 at 3:13 PM

Re: “Development wants, development gets

Mark, note the subtle, or maybe not so subtle, way you reworded what I said, before starting to reply to it ("does not mean deforestation" is not the same as "decreasing deforestation"). Then you even went on to agree with my original statement, at least to some extent, and thereby undercut your own claim of "wrong on both counts".

These semantic techniques might work well to get Broch all worked up (and generally he deserves it), but I am not going to fall for that.

If you want to argue that belt line is such a bad thing, or minimize its benefits, then go ahead, but I would have expected that more from Broch, although probably not for the same reasons. Between the positions that you two lay out, it seems like a miracle that the city has survived for as long as it has.

It seems to me that he wants to cut off poor people from any kind of social services or urban developments, while you want to focus on that to the exclusion of everything else. And of course the tragic outcome is that the city ends up as the dumping ground for the poorest people, and has to bear the brunt of societies problems.

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Posted by atlantan109 on 11/21/2014 at 2:48 PM

Re: “MARTA prepares for Clayton expansion … and beyond?

I'm lovin it

Posted by nohyphens on 11/21/2014 at 2:38 PM

Re: “Lawmakers, faith leaders, and advocates on Obama's executive action

Republicans on healthcare: "He should have waited until we did something."

Republicans on immigration: "He should have waited until we did something."

Republicans - all talk, no action.

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Posted by Mark from Atlanta on 11/21/2014 at 2:23 PM

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