Treat the disease not the symptom.
Take a look at this chart via the Washington Post (hardly a bastion of conservatism):
One can blame guns all they wish but disparity of wealth and a society treating violence as a solution imho is a much bigger issue.
I'm all for some forms of gun control but keep things in perspective; we are as a nation STILL involved in TWO DECADE+ WARS, execute people globally without due process, and domestically with state sanctioned trials. Three of the top 5 most watched shows are about murder and we make "reality" stars out of people that resort to violence and face no consequences.
Yeah the issue must be guns.
BTW statistically mass killings are NOT on the increase (and the largest mass killing of school children in the US didnt involve guns). But hey much easier to feed the perception.
Dep COO suspended for saying a few rude words about the Cobb Crackers? He should get a medal.
"They're not knick knacks for a billionaire's shelf."
True, they're not knick knacks, they are huge wealth transfers from the public to the pockets of billionaires. Knick knacks are inexpensive and quickly purchased. These boondoggles are terribly expensive and have to be paid for over and over again, year after year after year. But don't worry Mr. Peaked In High School. Wait long enough some Atlanta team will win a championship and you'll get a few minutes of reflected glory to help fill that void in your soul. Who needs sidewalks or lower taxes when you can call up Joe & the Sports Jocks radio show to express how great it is that "we" won the 2034 championship. Isn't it worth having broken sidewalks and traffic lights so bros like JR and Oy can have their ten minutes of "WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!" sometime between now and 2050 when the subsidy for Arthur Blank and family finally expires.
cityzen, Oy is a true Georgian Republican. Hard labor for school lunches, huge subsidies for the rich. Don't try to find consistency in their values. It's as impossible as finding maturity in an eight year old boy.
Oy, Neither of these stadia will be a public amenity any more than the Cheetah or the Ritz-Carlton is a public amenity. The profits of both stadia will flow to the respective billionaires, not to the public. Both deals channel massive tax streams to replace buildings that have decades of life left in them - no bragging rights are added by these deals. Fans are not even being subsidized, since they'll have to pay higher prices to attend. Retract your nonsense or admit that you're not a true conservative but a shill for crony capitalists, the sort that extract monopolistic rents from regular taxpayers.
How do you carry on an honest discussion without discussing Chicago? More children die in our presidents democratic controlled hometown, where guns are illegal, than in all the other mass shootings combined. How do you just overlook this little situation?
Oy, multi-millions for public amenities, civic pride and bragging rights; but, not a penny for "little thing[s]" like food and healthcare for those that don't have it? Very amusing.
Not to be the one hijacking a thread here, but imagine the freak out if instead of White Men...this picture was instead replaced with Black Men, with one carrying the AR-15 front and center like the portly gentleman in the red hoodie?
ESPECIALLY wearing a hoodie.
You know how folks get REALLY freaked the effed-out when they see black men in hoodies these days...
Vox, you disappoint me. You attack an article about a legitimate problem by saying it is too narrow, and apparently too common to your mind. Stuart should write about your suggested subject, violence in general? Yeah, that's a brand new subject and a discussion of it is certain to make things better. How dare she talk about getting rid of guns (not that she did)! Playing the kids die card, how dare she!
Mr. Mateo, what say you about what Stuart says (rather than what you attack her for wanting to take away your precious guns): doing something about the crazies with guns that kill people, kids included?
No one in the near or mid term is going to take away your guns. But people, and the little babies you folks make fun of are going to die, and die regularly, until some one gets a handle on dealing with the George Zimmermans and Adam Lanzas of the world.
There's no mystery why these deals happen.
They're not knick knacks for a billionaire's shelf. To the governments involved, they're public amenities and the basis for civic pride and bragging rights. Lefties just hate sports and rich people so they will never like it.
And it's VERY amusing to hear them decry public spending when they demand it for every little thing, whether justified or not.
Thomas, you are partially wrong on the T-SPLOST vote. Yes, our "leaders" aren't trustworthy enough to run a lemonade stand. But the rejection of the tax had a whole lot "to do with the selected road and transit projects."
I may be conflating causes of rejection; but, I think had our "leaders" actually acted regionally and proposed a mix of traffic improvements and transit initiatives they would have gotten the money they wanted and that we need to spend. Rather, they brokered deals among themselves - if you get this, I get that, the hell with what the people we represent need. That and blowing money on stadiums (and continual ethical idiocy, and few other things) is why we don't trust the Mayor and his regional and state friends - they are in it for themselves not the people that elected them. As long as we are stupid enough to elect them, they will do as they will once we have fulfilled our purpose, voting.
Wait did did you get the Christmas gifts or not yet?
Writing about gun control and trotting out "what about the children", is like spitting at a fire. I'm guessing there are around ten thousand similar missives.
How about an article about how violence permeates our society in general?
From people who say that alleged criminals should be executed, before any due process to our commander and chief who basically signs the same orders with drone strikes.
Get rid of guns? Come on.
(Ever watch a reality TV show where the characters fight? Support Obama this term around? Wish someone would f-off and die? Cheer when someone no matter how bad we feel they were is killed?) How about eliminating violence as a justifiable reaction on a personal level, and help spread it from there.
"Stadium Love" - Metric
Where and how do you think he got the gun? I do not know. Do you? I also am not aware of what the laws are re: age and gun possession in Colorado. But I will say this: Schools are supposed to be "gun-free zones" and Pierson had absolutely no regard for that whatsoever.
So what laws do you think could have stopped him?
"And, really, accusing me wanting to impinge on your rights because I simply "don't like guns"—like it's a condition that exists in a vacuum—strikes me as quite intellectually dishonest."
Please don't insult my intelligence. I hear that baloney from people all the time, and I know the endgame is making private gun ownership illegal.
If you disagree with that, then how about showing it, starting with condemning the efforts of the New York Police Department to confiscate rifles and shotguns. Then and only then will I believe you.
And, again, this is why a "dialogue" about guns is pointless ...
Well, it appears emails detailing the city's response have come out:
I'm not holding my breath for Cobb officials to do the same....
"Further, I could not help but notice how you left out the reason why Pierson's shooting rampage lasted less than two minutes: An armed officer was on campus and coming to Pierson's location and so Pierson felt he had no alternative but to turn the gun on himself."
Aaaaaaaaaand if Pierson didn't have access to a gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting rampage at all (a molotov cocktail-machete rampage,maybe) and Claire Davis would still have a face. How guns still come out on top in your weird game of rock, paper, scissors, I'm not sure I understand.
And, really, accusing me wanting to impinge on your rights because I simply "don't like guns"—like it's a condition that exists in a vacuum—strikes me as quite intellectually dishonest.
CL god bless em doesn't want to seem to want to get on the Mayors bad side. Though it's a great paper for some items, the AJC seems to be a better source since they are more willing to get into dirtiness of it all.
Wait till all the document/emails about the city's role and response to the Braves negotiation come out, they will be ugly. (And I predict will hurt the Mayors chance for higher state office). People leaving the admin. aren't a coincidence.
Actually, what I was saying, was I have the right to defend my person, my family, and my property by any means necessary. You merely wish to take away my ability to reasonably defend myself because you don't like guns. And that dog does not and will not hunt, kiddo.
Further, I could not help but notice how you left out the reason why Pierson's shooting rampage lasted less than two minutes: An armed officer was on campus and coming to Pierson's location and so Pierson felt he had no alternative but to turn the gun on himself.
If you want to have a discussion about guns, don't you think you should at least try to be something other than intellectually dishonest?
Hey Thomas, do we really have to go over this again? The shape of the earth is surely not in dispute. Nor is the value of 27 years of Atlanta hotel-motel tax going to the Falcons under this year's deal. About $500mm at the time, a bit less today because interest rates are up. Never $200mm, unless you predict the end of the world around 2030.
And the jobs impact of losing a 10-game per year team - if stiffing Arthur would have lost it - is a measly couple hundred of minimum wage jobs on year-round equivalent basis, and that includes the hotel and restaurant impact. Losing the Braves will result in about 8 times the loss of these min-wage jobs. Still nowhere near enough to warrant throwing any city (or Cobb County) money at them.
Finally, state laws are not immutable. Don't overlook that they can and often are changed.
But yes, your main point is right: the billionaire lobby speaks much louder to pols than all the rest of us put together. And in this year's local election we people took a small step to put the pols on notice. The big money crowd championed several go-along incumbents but we kicked them out.
"Cobb, a mammoth county that suffers both from an inferiority complex and an inflated ego..."
Quote of the year right there.
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