"Yet another poor use of public money when there are so many more urgent needs." Yes, let's only use public money for urgent needs. That way we don't have a chance to improve our city so that it captures more value in the private realm. Because using public money to help encourage a more sustainable economy, one that fills needs as they come along, making them less urgent, is a waste. Why teach a person to fish when you can just give them a free meal? Please tell me you aren't employed by the government, Broch.
@rupert m: I can show you a copy of the police report if you'd like, just shoot me an email.
Also, I'll probably post this once it becomes available, but the amendment to the panhandling ordinance was introduced in City Council yesterday.
Yet another poor use of public money when there are so many more urgent needs.
glad there's still some decency in the world. with some of the behaviour i've witnessed on the internet over the last year (the amanda todd incident in particular), i was getting worried.
@ Mark from Atlanta
"Whoever you are - you are better than this!"
Obviously not.
@ Atlanta Backer
When the bonds on the Georgia Dome are paid off doesn't matter - what the Falcon's lease with the GWCC requires is what matters. I read that the lease runs through 2020.
$112.6million of original 1990s Georgia Dome bonds were refinanced in November, 2011 at 3.22% (less than two years ago) and you can bet the State is in no hurry to pay them off. Of course, we haven't even discussed the last $300million you and I spent refurbishing the Dome in 2007.
Downtown needs some art! Anyone remember the High Museum of Folk Art, in the bottom of the Georgia-Pacific building? I used to love to go there. There's practically nothing downtown now except the building murals, and John Portman's stuff in the bottom of 303 Peachtree (if that's still there). Between this new gallery and Eyedrum moving to MLK, and the new businesses coming in, it's an exciting time, a boost that the downtown area really needs.
@Peter
http://www.examiner.com/article/georgia-dome-to-host-concacaf-soccer-gold-cup-july-2013
The point is we have a perfectly serviceable stadium that already successfully hosts world class events.
We do however have major issue issues as a city, (water/sewer, crime, roads, marta, pay for public servants, etc.), that are much more pressing.
No one has been able to tell me why giving hundreds of millions in public funds to a billionaire for a new stadium is a more logical choice. Anyone? Bueller?
[and please don't talk about it being a hotel/motel tax only usable for a stadium, not only is that not the case for most of the funds but the rest could easily have been earmarked for other projects with a minimal vote by the city]
If I may, here's a slightly different perspective that isn't really being addressed:
Bear in mind that this stadium can be used for multiple sports, including soccer, along with other events. The MLS has recently started talking about their expansion strategy for the Southeast, starting with having a team in either Orlando or Miami by 2016, which David Beckham is rumored to be involved with. Why should you care? Assuming the stadium were completed on-time by 2017, this would time perfectly for Atlanta to have an expansion team by then, too.
Given the past and present support for Atlanta having a team, including by Arthur Blank, the large, potential market, and the consistently huge crowds at the exhibition games in recent years, this isn't a pipe dream. Numerous statistics about Millennials show that they favor soccer, myself included. I could see an Atlanta team developing support similar to the way the Braves have throughout the South. That would be a major plus for this city.
No one knows for sure whether the NFL will still exist in 20 years. We'll see. Regardless, the stadium's configuration would still offer a lot of potential use, even as times change.
Whether you agree with a project like this or not, its funding, etc, at least try to note some of the pros. There's no point in continually griping about something that you will never have control over. It's like complaining about the rain or the price of gas.
I'd be more focused on making sure the neighborhood is developed properly. With so much potential, that would make a world of difference for Atlanta.
Hi Max - Thanks for writing this up; I think it deserves a wider circulation. Your story - and others posted on the websites of Channel 2, FoxAtlanta and the AJC - quotes police sources that McDaniel violated a city ordinance, but a little research has left me dubious of that fact (I posted my findings at http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151622409574717 - see my comment towards the bottom). Other stories also mentioned that the police report wasn't available after the fact, and that combination takes a little steam out of the "we're just enforcing the laws as they're written" justification.
McDaniel's court date was today and I intended to go, but unforeseen circumstances prevented me from attending. Did you happen to hear how it turned out? Anything less than a full apology by the city is a black eye on Atlanta.
TW, Marietta spelled out motives in their Greentech plan
My truck was stolen today at Carver High School. This could have helped.
anyone with the first name "Steak" can't really be all there in the first place. the reality is that there are hundreds of talented radio people on the unemployment line these days, so it's a no-brainer to just fire those three turds and hire some good people who won't revel in someone's misfortune.
Home birth is safe and empowering. I have had a number of people accuse me of caring more about my birth experience than the safety of my baby, and my response to them is always that if you really look at the information available, a woman who is allowed to labor in a comfortable and non-invasive environment will have a healthy and happier outcome than a woman who is constantly monitored and pushed along by a hospital experience. It is time that we give the choice back to the mothers about how and where they are "allowed" to birth. And it is also time for the medical community to start doing less to meddle with birthing and to really listen to their pregnant moms.
"Foxy News" "PMSNBC" "The bias in any media is not what is reported..."
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What about bias is the viewers? All Fox has to do is hire Palin and MSNBC keep Maddow and the salivating good ole boys vote with their remotes. What surprises me is that you would so completely buy into that stereotype!
"Just like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, PMSNBC single out Repubs and overlook Dems"
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Apparently you have not been watching them lately, Oy. They have been grilling your president.
mayhem in the am is terrible radio.
not sure who hired them in the first place - oh wait, now i remember. steak shapiro owned the station.
the other two guys are only slightly less terrible than shapiro.
don't be surprised if this incident is all of the reason needed to completely redo the morning show on 790.
Saw a "Bartell for Mayor" sign on a car downtown yesterday. Apparently Reed has picked up a competitor who isn't a single issue "the city won't let me do everything I want" candidate. Can't say I'm too impressed with what I've seen on Bartell's website but maybe that'll improve. If nothing else, I hope this forces Reed into having public debates where he'll actually be required to defend his rejection of the people of Atlanta in favor of the well connected.
Anyone know much about Bartell? I don't want to automatically jump into his camp just because Reed sucks.
They should not get paid while on leave!
Re: “First Slice 6/18/13: Behold, the final Falcons stadium design?”
link error— the correct link is
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/295959…