I, too, see downtown as a lonely place after 6pm vs. dangerous. There is strength in numbers so if you want businesses to stay open later, then eat and drink there until the Nth hour. Make them kick you out and witness the monetary loss. I try my best, but my solo glass of wine isn't convincing.
Whenever the downtown topic arises, there are comments galore. This makes me hopeful. If you put all this passion into being present at council meetings, ADNA meetings, frequenting the bars and restaurants you hate to see close early, attending all the emerging art events and festivals downtown, riding your bikes or taking MARTA here...(sigh, wiping tears).
I take total offense to your comments about the absence of law enforcement. I know they're around because I'm constantly awaken by their blasting whistles at night directing event traffic...or as someone mentioned at the creepy Dunkin' asylum.
@Orca...great observation although I challenge the speed in which it's happening. Progress is progress, nonetheless. Extra "like" for your name alone.
As a defensive and righteous REAL downtown resident, I would totally support your bulldozer Kickstarter:).
I agree there should be something else there to encourage foot traffic, so people will want to eat. That's why an art gallery or lounge would be a good idea. People hanging out to view art or catch a play, see a performance at a lounge, etc would more than likely go eat afterward.
"He caught unmerciful hell from the right over spending"
Oh, my sides. How they ache from laughing at this!
Deal will skate. You heard it here first.
On second thought, the only thing that keeps Atlanta from being perfect is that it's not on the coast.
I'm buying two Hummers.
"Thank goodness the FDA is doing something about this problem!"
Cosign...ditto...hell yeah, etc.
"Also I just don't Obama being capable of going after Deal. He is simply too afraid of conservatives."
Now that's just weird, J. First, why would the president "go after" a governor? Ever...for any reason? The Justice Dept. is spozed to be independent and impartial and any president that overtly went after a governor would be the story instead of the target,. And..."afraid of conservatives?'" Is that why he enrages them on a daily basis?
"And if Carter can't offer anything but calculating PR-driven mush or silence (and on the evidence to date he can't) he's a waste of space."
Always fun to watch the far left castigate the left.
Little harsh, in'it?
Oh that's right...I DID say enjoy yourself.
"the human centipede."
I'm calling bullshit.
You don't have to watch that thing. You just have to know it exists. Makes John Waters look like John Ford.
It's a real crisis because, you know, the sea level has NEVER become lower or higher before.
Human life on this rock is a tiny little sliver of time. To freak out over geologic change and feel that it's man's fault shows incredible hubris. Oh wait, there's computer models and those are infallible. The tiny amount of data from that tiny sliver of time run through our infallible computer models shows that I'm a hopeless malcontent.
OK...ship billions to those third world countries for despots to steal for themselves despite the existence of any real harm to anyone and at least we can sleep well.
It's Chicken Fuckin' Little on a global scale.
"Where were these Tea Party idiots when Bush was...."
You obviously weren't paying attention during the Dubya years. He caught unmerciful hell from the right over spending, although there was no Tea Party movement per se.
"The wealthy won't pay their fare share"
Not true. The top pays way out of proportion while the bottom and the lower middle pay hardly anything. It's easy to find the numbers.
"In 5 years this stadium will show itself for what it is; An ill thought out, no impact studies, rushed through county approval, over budget and impossible to get to a game because of putting the darn thing smack dab in the middle of Hollywood and Vine."
Will you post a mea culpa in five years if you are proven wrong?
QM, True. The Dems seem to act as a farm team for the Repugs, don't they? Kasim is probably considering when to switch affiliation, just as Nathan and Sonny before him.
PR 101 is not leadership, is it? And if Carter can't offer anything but calculating PR-driven mush or silence (and on the evidence to date he can't) he's a waste of space. In case it's not obvious, this harsh criticism is an (almost certainly futile) attempt to provoke a sudden onset of courage among those atop the Dem party. Nothing to lose. If they can't find their cojones, nobody but a few hacks will support them.
@Wesley: It is called BeltLine Kroger.
Please see http://www.SaveTheTed.org
@Cityzen PR 101. No need to comment on a story that writes itself.
Making a comment has no upside. Staying silent is the best thing. If Deal implodes and is found to have committed wrongdoing then no one will remember a comment you made when it all started, but if for some reason the crook isn't found to have done anything that can be proved wrong, then the comment can come back and bite you. Let the GOP primary folks tear him apart first, stay above the fray, and only dirty your hands when its your turn.
Glad the feds are involved. Does it even matter though? Even if Deal is found guilty of tampering GA retardlicans will simply re-elect him. Good luck Georgia.
I think downtown is already in the early stages of gentrification. To me, the best way to recognize that change is beginning to occur in any given location is to focus on the pace of art/artists inhabiting spaces. In my opinion, artists are one of many catalyst's of gentrification. Just in the past year I've seen artists begin to view downtown as a ripe canvas that is cheaper than their old gentrified haunts. You can see the writing on the wall in the concept shift in the M. Rich building, the No Vacancy installation, the gallery-to-be in the old AJC building, The Mammal Gallery, Living Walls murals, and Elevate, to name a few. It's happening now and it's happening fast.
Sometimes these comment threads seem like a bunch of drunk douche bags sitting on a front porch talking about stuff they know nothing about, acting as if they do. Please. Any sober, reasonable person knows that the only thing to be done with downtown is to level it and rebuild it as an enormous, 24 hour casino complex. Make it 100 stories tall, put 20-30 themed strip clubs inside and build a massive, free parking lot all around it. Just stop fighting it and let it happen, people.
Congrats you spent ONE night downtown and didnt get jumped. IT MUST BE SAFE if nothing happened to you right?
Anyway, there needs to be some type of incentive for restaurants/bars/housing to open downtown. Thats maybe the only way it will improve. Maybe some type of tax incentive? Or maybe eventually once the improvements continue westward on Edgewood and eastward from Castleberry Hill they will finally meet downtown.
As I've said before, 5 points area is a complete disgrace to the city of Atlanta. SOMETHING needs to be done with Underground obviously. My question is what is the city waiting for dont they own it? Its almost as if they WANT that area to remain a shithole. Because we all know what an improved area brings.....white voters.
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