I spent a good deal of time there and well, Cobb County isn't even that nice. I don't know why they think they live in some sort of paradise. I don't know where they think they live but it sure isn't Beverly Hills...
I'd rather pay 2 cents in Fulton and Dekalb just to have MARTA and the Beltline expanded within ITP. For parts of OTP, the commuter rail idea is interesting though... might be worth expanding commuter rail in the suburbs since pretty much all they are going to use it for is commuting anyways, and rush hour/events is the only time traffic is really bad here.
Also, MARTA does not suck. I've never had an issue taking the train here. The problem with MARTA is that it is not adequately funded/supported because people here have such warped minds about mass transit. It could be so much more than it is if people here had a half a damn brain.
Kathrin Ivanociv... seriously? You are against the Beltline because it will "white wash" the urban core of Atlanta? You are no better than Peggy Denby you racist bitch.
And nobody said black people are banned from the Beltline. Sorry but the amount of homeless and panhandlers in this city is out of control and just makes it feel down right ghetto as most of them are completely cracked out on drugs. Most I have encountered are rude and give the city a bad image. But hey, you are cool with this because your pathetic agenda is to keep Atlanta as "black" as can be. This city has been majority black for a long time... god forbid we have some diversity in this city!!! Oh, and how dare we have something unique and exciting in this city like the Beltline that will connect neighborhoods and foster more urban development!
Only until the last couple of years have more white, Hispanic, and Asian people been moving into the urban core... and I'm sure this scares people like you... you pathetic reverse racist loser.
Eh, Chuckie, I guess you are right. I have to agree with you on that. In order to solve this issue, we do have to go deeper than tougher law enforcement to fix the root cause of the problem. This type of stuff just pisses me off so much because it is so senseless and pointless.
For crimes like this one, we should really bring back public execution. That will really send a message to the 30 dimwit gang members. This citizens of this city are getting sick of the bullshit - senseless murders and robberies. I hope they all rot.
Ah, that felt good. Sorry, but crimes like this just make me so angry!
And your attitude is telling - you already believe everything is in your favor for the streetcar and the Beltline to fail. I don't expect someone like YOU to get it.
For the record, the streetcar route does not go through a blighted area. Centennial Olympic Park and over by Peachtree Center MARTA is not blighted. The only area in transition is Edgewood Avenue and Auburn Ave, but it is not blighted either. Several restaurants and bars, the Sweet Auburn Curb Market, as well as apartments have popped up over the past couple of years. That area just needs a push to completely transition over and the streetcar is a great way to do it. The streetcar route passes several "tourist" spots, offices and GSU and you think it'll just be serving a bunch of poor people? The Beltline route between Lindbergh MARTA and Inman Park MARTA is also not blighted and dense enough to support transit. I live near Piedmont Park and would love to not have to drive to Inman Park, for example. There is so much along that route - if you have never walked it, you should.
You say it won't work, but it has worked in other cities, like Charlotte, where their light rail line goes through South End which was once a boring industrial area and is now a thriving residential and commercial area. I used to live in Charlotte and South End used to be a joke. Ever since the light rail opened, a bunch of new apartments/condos and restaurants were built/opened.
You can throw as much money as you want for incentives for businesses, but they won't relocate to Atlanta if we don't physically do something to make our city a better place. I'm not saying we shouldn't market our city as a great place to live and do business, but that's not the ONLY solution.
And I don't expect you to get it either - YOU are completely missing the point. How can we get more high quality people ("the creative class") to live in the city, since you believe they are the key to a city (and I can agree on that)? You think it's by incentives and commuter taxes and I think it's by building projects that help connect neighborhoods in our city and increase much needed park space.
Here's some more facts for you, which you seem to ignore...
"Even as Atlanta’s population grew, the number of jobs in the city plummeted by 17 percent this decade, according to U.S. Census figures."
Marcus predicts Atlanta will lose “a lot of taxes and a lot of jobs” if leaders do not step up and address crime and quality-of-life issues.
Quality of life issues = more park space, more transit, connecting neighborhoods, making the city more walkable/vibrant, streetscape improvements (which are happening thanks to Central ATL Progress, Midtown Alliance, and Buckhead CID) and yes, safety (crime is another topic).
I used the 2000 census because it is the most accurate and the they only come out every 10 years. It is still very relevant because despite the growth in the city and metro area, the CITY of Atlanta actually has less jobs now then it did in 2000, which means there would not be significant increase (most likely a decrease) in the number of people commuting into the city. And if you think it really increased from 250,000 to "millions" you are out of your mind. When they release the 2010 statistics, you will see that there will not be a significant change. I don't think the census bureau makes things up either.
"In 2000, the city boasted 478,000 jobs. By 2008, there were 395,000."
Less jobs in the city = less people commuting, even if more people live in the metro area. And if you took a poll and ask people/businesses what factors would make them want to live/locate in the city or what factors would influence them to live/locate in the city, a bunch of tolls would probably be dead last. Parks and transit (the Beltline!), walkability, etc is what attracts people to the city. Your only solution seems to be toll booths to collect revenue which the city can't do. Like I said, these are state highways/roads and if they put up tolls, which they won't, the state would collect the revenue, not the city.
Besides, it doesn't matter what you think because the streetcar and the Beltline is happening and it will work. So much for you being an "advocate" of Atlanta, ha, what a joke.
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