Shall we review a small portion of actual self defense incidents where law abiding citizens defended themselves with guns, lets!
Oh make sure and understand the following to give you an accurate perspective on reality of how many times such incidents occur.
The USDOJ Firearms use by Offenders Nov 2001 & USDOJ Background chek & firearm transfer reports identify that 85% of crimes involving a gun shots are not fired, police firearm discharge reports agree with those 2 studies that only 15% of the time shots are fired are target actually hit.
Then of course since for example the FBI UCR database shows in 2008 out of 1.38 mil violent crimes reported there were 381,000 involved a firearm, or the USDOJ National Victimization reports that show a consistent trend between 2001-2011 that 73.95% of all violent crimes committed are never reported, well, sane people do recognize that oh so many self defense incidents just arent reported, trained by the reality that involving the police for no good reason, opens a can of worms, besides, since police arent legally liable to protect the individual as ruled dozens of times in court and only solve on avg. 8.06% of all violent crimes committed, faith in the police is justifiably lacking!
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/325962/8/… 7/20/13 FL
http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Suspect-in-… 7/19/13 TX
http://gazette.com/motorcyclist-turns-tabl… 7/18/13 CO
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_new… 7/16/13 OH
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/07/15/… 7/15/13 PA
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=… 7/14/13 PA
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130… 7/12/13 MS
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/melbourne… 7/11/13 FL
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local… 7/9/13 CO
http://www.news-record.com/news/crime/arti… 7/8/13 NC
http://www.wsbt.com/news/wsbt-report-lapor… 7/8/13 IN
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=… 7/1/13 TX
http://www.live5news.com/story/22698762/co… 6/26/13 SC
http://www.times-georgian.com/news/local/a… 6/26/13 GA
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/a… 6/20/13 FL
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/a… 6/19/13 FL
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Newar… 6/17/13 NJ
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/22600858/li-p… 6/15/13 NY
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/12/grand… 6/12/13 CA
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-06… 6/10/13 GA
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_centr… 6/9/13 AZ
http://www.newssun.com/news/060913-burglar… 6/9/13 FL
http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/22542743/h… 6/9/13 GA
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130607/j… 6/7/13 NY
http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20130… 6/5/13 LA
http://www.13wmaz.com/news/local/article/2… 6/4/13 GA
http://www.eagletribune.com/local/x1307055… 6/4/13 MA
http://www.thecoastalsource.com/2013/06/02… 6/2/13 GA
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/2013… 6/2/13 IN
http://djournal.com/view/full_story/228157… 6/2/13 MS
http://www.khou.com/news/local/Texas-City-… 6/2/13 TX
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/ho… 5/28/13 TX
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_c_palm… 5/27/13 FL
http://www.webcitation.org/6GuVzhWYA 5/26/13 AL
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/man-… 5/24/13 NC
http://www.kctv5.com/story/22407866/shots-… 5/23/13 MO
http://fox17online.com/2013/05/22/fallen-o… 5/22/13 MI
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/per… 5/21/13 FL
Oh you want data, hey lets review the following.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm FBI UCR Database
You know, the government database showing in 2008 that 1.38 mil violent crimes were reported and that of those 381,000 involved a firearm, 15% of the incidents were shots fired.
Firearm Use by Offenders, Bureau of Justice Statistics, November 2001 http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pb....
http://www.data.gov/details/1526 USDOJ National Victimization Report 2008
You know, the government agency sub annual report showing in 2008 alone that 70% of all violent crimes committed each year were not reported. Funny how we see Canada & England perform this same study and get the same results, go figure eh!
Oh wait, what’s this, annual firearm discharge reports that show the police only hit their targets 15% of the time, such a common trend.
Uh just an fyi there were approximately 12,252 murders and 70,000 injuries by firearms in 2008.
So using the standard shooting percentages, and hit % provided by all that government data these antis cant refute, lets calculate and see how many people self defense has saved the US per year, and we will only concentrate on the law abiding to start with. Even though the anti’s wont admit that even felons, who are citizens, have the right to defend themselves.
Self Defense saves lives
FBI UCR 2010
278 documented justifiable homicides and since there are oh 2.5 people per household per US Census, almost 6 injuries per death we will calculate from that point.
278 incidents + (6 x 278 = injured) = 15% of shots hit target /15 = 1% x 100 = # of shots fired = 12,973 incidents shots fired by law abiding citizens.
12,973/15 = 1% x 100 = total number of self defense incidents just of people not involved in a criminal activity =86,488 incidents.
Since 70% of all violent crimes are not reported, do you have any data that self defenses aren’t reported at the same rate, no you don’t, so……
86,488 / 30 = 1% X 100 = 288,293 total incidents of self-defense in 2010
288,293 x 2.5 people per household = 720,723 people defended or defending themselves.
Now we know that of 381,000 violent crimes in 2008, there were 12,252 murders, and 70,000 injuries, and assuming the same rate of injuries = 3.4% deaths 18.4% injuries.
12,252/381,000 = 3.2% and 70,000/381,000 = 18.4%
288,293 x .032 = # of deaths saved 9,225
288,293 x .184 = # of injuries prevented 53,045
So sad we can using this government data show law abiding civilians prevented since 1960 over 581,000 murders and prevented over 3.334 mil injuries. Thats a pretty good social engineering experiment eh, preventing nearly 4 million injuries from criminal acts over the last 53 years (almost 74,000 per year)!
If it saves just one life, it is justified.
But hey, since our own govt. acknowledges that over 92% of all killings by illegal use of a firearm are committed by career criminals, gang members, suiciders and crazies, w about 50% of the remainder from domestic violence incidents, one would think sane people would look at the root cause of most of that violence instead of the law abiding, oh, my bad, asking for a sane response from a wack-a-loon progressive, my bad, wont do that again!
Were you aware of this study? It's not done by a pro-gun think-tank , it's the CDC.
"Estimating intruder-related firearm retrievals in U.S. households, 1994."
The CDC estimated that "497,646 incidents occurred in which the intruder was seen and reportedly scared away by the firearm... "
And that is an annual number.
Almost 500k defensive uses of a gun in one year, only in homes. So you going to prove not one single violent crime is committed outside the home, lol!
Many defenses uses of guns are never reported because the defender simply shows the gun and the criminal ceases.
Per FBI UCR & CDC in 1991 24,700 murders, consistent % where firearms used is 67.8% =16,747 murders by illegal use of firearm, 15,383 suicides by firearms, 657 justifiable homicides, 1,463 accidental firearms deaths =34,250 deaths where firearms were used
2011 14,612 murders 67.7% used a firearm = 9,892, 591 justifiable homicides, 835 accidental deaths, 19,766 suicides = 31,084 deaths where a firearm was used.
Since 1991 to 2011, that is a reduction in…..
Totals / Rate
Violent Crime -37.04% / -49.04%
Murder w gun -41.31% / -52.51%
Rape -21.73% / -36.59%
Robbery -48.47% / -58.31%
Aggravated Assault -31.26% /-44.36%
Accidental deaths -41.9% / -52.14%
So explain again how since 1991 there has been a 42% increase in firearms in civilian hands there hasn’t been a 42% increase in violence or suicide?
1991 suicide rate 12.2 per 100k people, if increased by 42% = 17.3 per 100k people
2010 suicide rate 11.9 per 100k people
Well, since there aree 42% more firearms in US civilians hands since 1991 and a rather large reduction in violent crime and murders, it does indeed appear the social experiment of telling the bad guys they can get shot for committing a crime is indeed creeping into their consciousness eh!
Lets review the following 45 total, (19 of which people resisted) mass shootings, and note what the body counts were where resistance occurred versus no resistance.
October 16, 1991, Luby’s Cafeteria, Killeen, TX, “Gun-Free”: 1 gunman, 23 murdered, 20 injured.
Nov 01,1991 – University of Iowa in Iowa City, IA – 4 dead, 2 wounded – Iowa doesn’t have concealed carry – gun free zone
July, 01,1993 – Pettit & Martin Law Offices in San Francisco – 8 dead, 6 wounded – San Francisco is effectively a “no-issue” city – gun free zone.
Dec 07,1993 – Long Island Railroad at Garden City, N.Y. – 6 dead, 19 wounded – NYC is effectively a “no-issue” city that doesn’t recognize licenses from the rest of the state – gun free zone.
Mar 24,1998 – Middle School at Jonesboro, AR – 5 dead, 10 wounded – juveniles stole guns from one’s grandfather – gun free zone.
April 20, 1999, Columbine, “Gun-Free”: 2 gunmen, 13 murdered, 24 injured. Many were murdered AFTER the police were “on scene”.
09/15/1999 – Wedgwood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, TX – 7 dead, 7 wounded – gun free zone.
12/26/2000 – Edgewater Technology in Wakefield, MA – 7 dead – Killer didn’t have permits for guns – gun free zone.
03/05/2001 – Santana High School in Santee, CA – 2 dead, 13 wounded – gun free zone.
07/08/2003 – Lockheed Martin Aeronautics in Meridian, MS – 5 dead, 9 wounded – gun free zone.
03/21/2005 – Red Lake High School, Red Lake Indian Reservation, MN – 9 dead, 7 wounded – gun free zone.
10/02/2006 – Amish schoolhouse in Nickel Mines, PA – 5 dead, 5 wounded – gun free zone.
02/12/2007 – Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City, UT – 5 dead, 4 wounded – gun free zone.
April 16, 2007, Virginia Tech, “Gun-Free”: 1 gunman, 32 murdered, 25 injured. Most were murdered AFTER the police were “on scene”.
12/05/2007 – Westroads Mall in Omaha, NE - 8 dead, 4 wounded – gun free zone.
Feb 14,2008 Northern Illinois University, 1 gunman, 5 dead, 18 injured, gunman kills self long before police arrive to engage.
04/03/2009 – American Civic Association, Binghamton, NY – 13 dead, 4 wounded – gun free zone.
Nov 5 ,2009 Ft Hood Texas, 1 gunman, 13 dead, 32 wounded. Military personnel on base are BANNED from having a weapon, but the shooter did, and it was almost 9 minutes before police responded
08/03/2010 – Hartford Distributors, Manchester, CT – 8 dead, 2 wounded – gun free zone.
10/12/2011 – Salon Meritage in Seal Beach, CA – 8 dead, 1 wounded – restraining order in effect.
04/02/2012 – Oikos University in Oakland, CA – 7 dead, 3 wounded – gun free zone.
July 2012 Aurora CO, 1 gunman, 13 dead, 70 wounded
Aug 2012 Oak Creek WI, 1 gunman, 6 dead, 4
09/28/2012 – Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN – 4 dead, 4 wounded – unknown if the business was a gun free zone.
10/21/2012 – Azana Salon and Spa in Brookfield, WI – 3 dead, 4 wounded – restraining order in effect with order to turn guns over to Sheriff’s Office.
12/14/12 SandyHook 26 dead
Gun Free Zone 26 incidents
Defenseless victims murdered: 245
Defenseless victims injured: 297
Avg. injuries 20.85
December 17, 1991 Shoney’s Family Restaurant, Anniston, AL: 3 gunmen, 20 hostages, one ARMED customer (Thomas Glenn Terry). Police finally arrived to find one dead robber, one wounded robber and the third had fled when the shooting started. NO INJURED INNOCENTS.
April 24, 1998 Edinboro PA 14-year-old Andrew Wurst shot and killed a teacher at a school dance, and shot and injured several other students— when he was confronted by the dance hall owner James Strand, who lived next door and kept a shotgun at home.
October 1, 1997, Pearl High School: 1 gunman, 2 murdered, 7 injured: Stopped by ARMED vice principal.
January 16, 2002, Virginia Appalachian School of Law: 1 gunman, 3 murdered, 3 injured. Killer was stopped when confronted by two ARMED students.
Nov 20, 2005 Tacoma WA, 20 yr old juvenile delinquent shoots 4 (1 non gun shot wounded) then exchanges shots with an armed civilian wounding him, but then takes 4 hostages and holes up before surrendering to police.
Feb 12, 2007 Trolley Mall Salt Lake Utah 1 gunman, 4 killed, 5 wounded before on scene off duty policeman shot and killed the heavily armed killer. Hundreds of people
still in mall when shooting ended before on duty police arrived.
Dec 9 2007, Colorado Springs, New Life Church, 1 gunman 2 murdered, 3 injured, gunman stopped when armed woman who worked security shoots gunman, who then turns gun on self and commits suicide, while 100 other church members are in church.
Winnemucca, Nevada in 2008, Ernesto Villagomez killed two people and wounded two others in a bar filled with three hundred people. He was then shot and killed by a patron who was carrying a gun (and had a concealed carry license).
June 11 2009 , Washington D.C. An 88-year-old gunman with a violent and virulently anti-Semitic past opened fire with a rifle inside the crowded U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday, fatally wounding a security guard before being shot himself by other officers, authorities said.
May 4th, 2009 College Station Georgia 2 gunman, 10 victims, 1 dead gunman, 1 victim wounded. The 2 thugs robbing a party begin discussing if they have enough bullets to do the job. One man retrieves his firearm, kills one thug, chases the other off.
January 4, 2010 A US Marshall and a security guard were shot about 8 a.m. January 4 in the lobby of the federal courthouse in Las Vegas, Nevada. FBI Special Agent Joseph Dickey said that the shooting suspect was shot and killed.
August 7, 2010 Jerusalem; A security guard at the Ateret Kohanim yeshiva in the Old City of Jerusalem shot and killed a Palestinian man who snatched the weapon of another guard and used it to wound him.
Aug 30, 2010 Sullivan Co. Sheriff Dept. officer Carolyn Gudger is the school resource officer and is shown outside Sullivan Central High School in Blountville, Tenn. Gudger was the resource officer who first confronted Thomas Richard Cowan who had two handguns with him as he entered the school on August 30, 2010. In doing so, she delayed the gunman long enough for the school to do a proper lockdown and backed the gunman away from his hostage. The gunman was later shot and killed by police!
Aug 15, 2012 A gunman who shot a security guard Wednesday at the Family Research Council office in Washington, D.C., was carrying a handgun and several additional rounds of ammunition, federal investigators told NBC News.
The wounded guard, identified as Leo Johnson, wrestled the gun away from the shooter and prevented him from hurting anyone else, police said. (Can we say the gunman was INCOMPENTENT)
Dec 11, 2012 Clackamas Mall OR mall shooter Tyler weapon jammed when he saw Nick Meli, a cpl licensee drawing a bead on him.Tyler retreated into the stairwell, cleared his weapons malfunction and committed suicide rather than continue attacking and killing any more innocent civilians
Dec 19, 2012 San Antonio TX off-duty police sergeant, identified as Lisa Castellano. Castellano was working as private security at the theatre when she saw the gunman with his weapon in his hand. Castellano fired 4 shots and hit the man once, immediately ended the potential shooting spree. Police say over 30 shots were fired, including the 4 fired by Castellano. The suspect, if he survives, will likely face capital-attempted murder charges since he fired at a police car at one point during the incident.
January 1, 2013 Old Sacramento security guard Stefan Walton described the New Year’s Eve shooting that killed two people and how he says he stopped the gunman.
Jan 31, 2013, ATLANTA, GA -- A student opened fire at his middle school Thursday afternoon, wounding a 14-year-old in the neck before an armed officer working at the school was able to disarm and apprehend.
Feb 1, 2013 Detroit MI, Police sources tell 7 Action News that a women's basketball coach from Martin Luther King, Jr. Senior High School shot two men who attacked him as he was walking two basketball players to their cars in the school parking lot. Police sources say the coach was walking the two girls to their cars when two men allegedly approached and one pulled out a gun and grabbed him by his chain necklace. The coach then pulled out his gun and shot both of them, according to sources. The man who shot the attackers was 70 years old, according to police.
Where murderers encountered ARMED resistance 19 incidents
Where murderers encountered ARMED resistance; injured: 29
Avg. 2.37 injuries
20.85/2.37 = 8.802 times more likely to be injured when no defense occurs
Wow, where no resistance occurred 8.802 plus times higher body count.
Yep, a higher body count is morally superior to a lower body count based on your irrelevant beliefs.
So, the zero tolerance policy the progressives have been flogging our kids with in schools where the victim is automatically just as guilty as the attacker hasnt developed the intense feeling of helplessness in the intended victims that results in no conversatinal skills necessary as they have in 30 years learned the govt. only punishes victims and leads them to the logical conclusion and go straight to violent retaliation as in the end, it isnt their fault, such a collectivist dream, so in reality, why arent you progressives supporting those who defend themselves as in your black little hearts, no one is responsible for their own actions, yeah, par for a progressive social experiment!
But then why is it, that we have 42% more firearms in civilian hands since 1991, yet our murders and violent crime rates are down between -40% to -52% per FBI UCR data, hmmmmmm.
Thought you progressives inferred guns made people commit violent acts, guns are the root cause of violence?
Oh thats right, the progressives believe guns cause avarice, greed, lust, gangs, drug & alcohol abuse, poor schools, poverty, religious intolerance, 1 momma w 8 kids & 8 daddies, etc, etc, etc.....
Details, dtail, detail, details, progressives really cant stand details...
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