http://clatl.com/atlanta/dont-let-georgia-power-derail-solar-power/Content?oid=4818565 Comments On: Don't let Georgia Power derail solar power by Editorial Board en-us Copyright 2013 Creative Loafing Atlanta. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Creative Loafing Atlanta readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Creative Loafing Atlanta. wil@desert.net (Creative Loafing Atlanta Webmaster) Thu, 23 May 2013 00:00:01 -0400 Thu, 23 May 2013 15:30:00 -0400 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss http://www.homemadeenergy.org/
Posted by NATURE'S MIRACLE SOLUTIONS]]> Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:22:10 -0400 Creative Loafing Atlanta
As a Member of GSEA and president of a solar company.
Posted by Russell Seifert]]> Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:55:23 -0400 Creative Loafing Atlanta Posted by Michael Dion]]> Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:41:36 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta Posted by TexGfield]]> Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:25:37 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta Posted by TexGfield]]> Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:33:34 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
interesting fact: coal plants release far more radiation than equivalently-sized nuclear plants (because there are trace radioactive elements in the coal)
Posted by eric pfeifer]]> Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:10:05 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
let's say i operate a coal-fired power plant. i pay for wages, materials, facilities, fuel (coal) and all other sorts of real goods.
Posted by eric pfeifer]]> Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:08:28 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
i already explained it.
Posted by eric pfeifer]]> Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:58:52 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta Posted by zedsmith]]> Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:20:32 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
Regarding recent solar firm bankruptcies, from 5 days ago:

Feb 14 (Reuters) - Lightweight solar product maker Energy Conversion Devices Inc filed for bankruptcy protection on Tuesday, the latest in a string of solar companies that have collapsed in an industry shakeout.

The company, whose filing follows years of losses and months of public discussions with bondholders, said it would sell its United Solar Ovonic unit and other assets in bankruptcy.

Energy Conversion's failure is the fourth major bankruptcy in the industry in the past year. Evergreen Solar Inc , Solyndra and SpectraWatt have also sought Chapter 11 protection.

Posted by Burroughston Broch]]> Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:55:43 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
Loan guarantees are a little more complicated for me too, but that, and protectionist trade terms, are how countries like south korea have developed from third to first world based on tech jobs, and it is historically how countries like america have built things of value like the intercontinental railroad. It goes without saying that federal loan guarantees are the only way our new nuclear power plants are going to get built.
Posted by zedsmith]]> Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:17:12 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
Since you present yourself as an intellectual, please explain in Plain English what you mean by "externality." From what I can glean of your definition, it doesn't seem to correspond with the Wikipedia entry.

As a start, here is the first paragraph from the Wikipedia entry:
"In economics, an externality, or transaction spillover, is a cost or benefit not transmitted through prices [1] that is incurred by a party who did not agree to the action causing the cost or benefit.
Posted by Burroughston Broch]]> Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:12:58 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
i was in little five once on a busy weekend. i was standing outside el myr, waiting for some friends to show up.
Posted by eric pfeifer]]> Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:26:00 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
what about massive subsidies to coal and nuclear

do those also not work

what do you think it would be like paying actual market price for electricity

"I'm for personal tax credits for installing solar at your home or business.
Posted by eric pfeifer]]> Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:19:22 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
Since you don't seem to respond to simple English, let me frame my response in your chosen vernacular."

oh man this is gonna be awesome

"For you: Solar power subsidies are a negative externality for the taxpayers and utility ratepayers, and a positive externality for those receiving the subsidies and for Georgia Power."

that is not what externality means in any way. language is not your wife, you can't abuse it until it agrees with you

"Plain English: Solar power subsidies put free money in the pockets of those receiving the subsidy and Georgia Power, and hose everyone else."

yeah you said this already, and i already demonstrated why you are wrong

"For you: Technology incubation for solar power firms in the USA has proven to be a failure, with billions of dollars of taxpayer funds squandered while the firms continue to fail.
Plain English: The promise of solar power firms has not developed, even though we have poured billions of tax dollars into them.
Posted by eric pfeifer]]> Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:15:34 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta Posted by oydave]]> Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:12:57 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta and it takes about 15 years to pay back
The only option for home owners is to try a
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Posted by Danielle Max]]> Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:56:36 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
Responding to your economics gobbledygook of "externalities, tech incubation and local shift-share ratio."

Since you don't seem to respond to simple English, let me frame my response in your chosen vernacular.

For you: Solar power subsidies are a negative externality for the taxpayers and utility ratepayers, and a positive externality for those receiving the subsidies and for Georgia Power.
Plain English: Solar power subsidies put free money in the pockets of those receiving the subsidy and Georgia Power, and hose everyone else.

For you: Technology incubation for solar power firms in the USA has proven to be a failure, with billions of dollars of taxpayer funds squandered while the firms continue to fail.
Plain English: The promise of solar power firms has not developed, even though we have poured billions of tax dollars into them.
Posted by Burroughston Broch]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:36:07 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
You think we should never have built the interstate highway system, or awarded telecom companies the geographic monopolies necessary for them to expand the internet and telephone service. Was rural electrification "picking winners", is the postal service?
Posted by zedsmith]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:10:21 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
Precisely. Government isn't supposed to invest with the same goals as a private equity firm.
Posted by Chuckie]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:59:11 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
Government is there to protect and mediate, not pick winners and losers in the economy.
Posted by oydave]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:18:53 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
OMG THE FOUNDERS WERE COMMIES
Posted by zedsmith]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:51:00 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
that's exactly what government is for
Posted by eric pfeifer]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:24:08 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta
That's not really what government's for.


Posted by oydave]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:13:55 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta Posted by zedsmith]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:23:21 -0500 Creative Loafing Atlanta