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Antarctica was a rainforest? That leads to the conclusion that the globe is too cold. It is the moral duty of all environmentalists to drive SUV's and increase their carbon footprint so that we may return Antarctica to it's naturally correct state.

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Posted by DaleC on 07/06/2009 at 10:32 AM

lol @ dale. remind me, how old is the earth? 6,00 years?

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Posted by wesleywhatwhat on 07/06/2009 at 12:01 PM

lol @ dale. remind me, how old is the earth? 6,000 years?

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Posted by wesleywhatwhat on 07/06/2009 at 12:02 PM

Speaking about the science of atmospheric temperatures, remember when it was a bad thing to allow politics to overrule science? http://www.pjtv.com/video/Powerline/An_Obama_Cover_Up%3A_The_EPA_Suppresses_It%27s_Own_Climate_Report_/2103/ Amazing.

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Posted by Eugene on 07/06/2009 at 12:21 PM

Eugene, I couldn't get the Pajamas TV video to load. If it's what I think you're talking about, have you read this?

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Posted by ThomasWheatley on 07/06/2009 at 1:40 PM

In conversations with most people, the Earth is exactly as old as they are or, at least, that is the impression I get from their knowledge of history and their inflated sense of their impact on it.

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Posted by DaleC on 07/06/2009 at 2:04 PM

Thomas, the article you linked disparages the views of the EPA staffer in question, Alan Carlin, for 2 main reasons. 1 - the author of the article says Carlin's an economist, not a scientist. 2 - the author points out over and over that Carlin's bosses did not assign him the duty of producing this specific report. Well, I looked the guy up on the EPA's site and he's got a bachelor's degree in physics AND a PHD in economics. But what's Al Gore have? A bachelor's degree in government! So I have no problem taking the word of a guy with a bachelor's in physics (and a master's in economics) over the word of a guy w/ merely a bachelor's degree in govt. After all, both are quoting the work of scientists. And so what if his bosses didn't specifically ask him to produce this report? Where's the written memo asking Al Gore to produce Earth In The Balance? That really strikes me as an extremely irrelevant point.

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Posted by Eugene on 07/06/2009 at 11:10 PM

Back again because I think it's pretty imperative that we get this right. From the San Francisco Examiner.... "A source inside the Environmental Protection Agency confirmed many of the claims made by analyst Alan Carlin, the economist/physicist who yesterday went public with accusations that science was being ignored in evaluating the danger of CO2. The source, who chooses not to be identified for fear of retaliation, said that Carlin was rebuffed in his attempt to introduce scientific evidence that does not accord with the EPA's view of global warming, which largely relies on IPCC reports. The source also saw Carlin's report and said that it was 'based on 8 points of peer-reviewed, recent and relevant scientific publications' that cast doubt on the wisdom of regulating CO2 as a pollutant." http://www.examiner.com/x-9111-SF-Environmental-Policy-Examiner~y2009m6d25-The-EPAs-internal-nightmare-over-global-warming-Part-1

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Posted by Eugene on 07/07/2009 at 9:21 AM
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