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Re: “Last night dubstep molly saved my life

In case anybody would like to entertain a dubstep related retort to this article, I have posted one here. Creative Loafing staff, feel free to read as well.

http://icnt.mx/2011/03/cl-open-letter/

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Posted by Shortstack on 03/03/2011 at 10:37 PM

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This article was a horrible read. The author sounds like a bitter piece of shit. I love how it is just an automatic assumption that if people have glow sticks in their hands, they also have drugs in their pockets. How about you get out of your narcissistic puke box and write something positive about the Dubstep scene? Help feed the REAL music, and don't grab quotes from someone in a drunken stupor such as, "It kinda goes 'didididididi WHOOMP WHOOMP!' for like six hours. Most people think it's annoying." I would say to get a true account of what Dubstep is, go to one of the real shows and speak with one of the real artists or real fans. Not some random warehouse full of college kids that heard about some "secret party" going on that night. Not to mention that the article sounds like it was written by some high school kid in a creative writing class with an inflated ego.

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Posted by DubbelH on 03/03/2011 at 10:28 PM

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I like dubstep because it makes the drugs sound really fucking good.

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Posted by WOBBLEBITCH on 03/03/2011 at 10:19 PM

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you did say that the dub-step was a techno right? i gotta have a techno. it's like a so rad, especially when it wobbles and pews.

but here, let me shed some more light on my opinion on dub-step:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

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Posted by infernal_techno on 03/03/2011 at 10:02 PM

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oh so cool! i can't wait to experience the dub-step! i just stepped out of 1986 and this sounds like a just my party, man!

Posted by infernal_techno on 03/03/2011 at 9:56 PM

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Why you gotta bring Los Angeles into this?

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Posted by hera on 03/03/2011 at 9:48 PM

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I'm an f-18 bro. Me and the goddesses love the article. It is a warlock favorite. Winning is all I do. Dubstep is a way for a bunch of "slower" people to feel ok about their lameness. Get real. That music was made in the medulla oblongata of a computer. If you want to win, listen to justin hawkins and oot a huge knot of glorious gak. Now i'm leaving with these two smooking hotties and flying around the earth privately. Don't hate because you're jealous. Keep it t-real homeboy.

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Posted by chucksheenwinning on 03/03/2011 at 9:45 PM

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Oh boy where do I start with this one? Why must people constantly call out drug use at parties like this when drug use happens everywhere? And now making the newest form of popular EDM( Dubstep) the target? I don't know if this author meant anything personally or not but Good God man we have all made leaps and bounds working our asses off to turn things around over the last ten years; Articles like this make it sound as though all Dance Music in Atlanta is played at cracked out warehouses and drug dens. Oh and by the way dude Molly has been around for years and years and years. This music(dance music as a whole) has a value, it is influencing every other genre of music out there right now and for people to continuously make our music scene a scapegoat for drug use is not only hypocritical, it's just plain lame. I sincerely hope CL thinks twice again before they let someone write an article like this about the Atlanta Dance Music Scene and Dubstep as 1 genre of it. I have worked so hard over the last ten years to help people in this town see that dance music is just as valid as any other form. We are making major headway right now across the Country and articles like these don't help at all. Steps off of Soapbox now...

Corey Von Waters.

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Posted by aquatechnic on 03/03/2011 at 8:36 PM

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This article is worthless. You want to knock a scene, get to know it. You went out for 5 minutes and spewed this mindless crap.

The college age kids got kicked out of most venues in the city with the backwards ass smoking laws. You will always find them at warehouses cause they have nowhere else to go.

Dubstep is EVERYWHERE in this City. Check out 404audio. Find out you schmuck.

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Posted by neoturner on 03/03/2011 at 7:04 PM

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When the book is in a language you don't understand, you end up just looking at the pictures.




In Mayor's defense, nothing of what he says is serious.

Dont blame the author....look at his other columns...they are all equally absurd and awesome.

And concerning these underage raves, he isn't wrong about them. I've been to a few.

It just sucks that unlike with rock music or visual art... in this magazine...there are no serious articles to point readers in an intelligent direction when it comes to electronic music.

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Posted by blackdominoes on 03/03/2011 at 7:01 PM

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Remember when your Mom used to tell you that the kids that were picking on you were just jealous? And it would make you SO MAD cuz that just couldn't be! But she was right. The author of this tripe is JUST JEALOUS. You don't understand it, you're not a part of it, AND YOU SO WANT TO BE! I feel sorry for you, because if you had any interest in having a good time and being included, those tragic, fashion-victim philosophers are some of the nicest, coolest people you will ever meet. Get out. Don't come in the the first place. We don't need you there. We won't miss you. And you know what? You need it. And you're missing it :P

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Posted by Wuxi7oz on 03/03/2011 at 6:51 PM

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Just poor writing. Neither informative nor entertaining. That's all.

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Posted by MUNTZ on 03/03/2011 at 6:33 PM

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Dude, seriously!! Who hired you because both they and you should be fired.. Before you make a backwards assumption of something you know absolutely nothing about, you really need to base off of more than one experience.. This scene doesnt revolve about drugs there buddy its about music. Just like rock music or any other genre for that matter isnt based around the drugs but i guarentee that you go to a show and you'll find them there too.. Thats it journalism licensed revoked.. go sit your ignorant no sense having self on the corner with a sign that says i give my unwanted retarded opinion to those who dont want it.. you would be better off..

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Posted by blahblahblahwhatevawhatevawhateva on 03/03/2011 at 6:14 PM

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Dude, seriously!! Who hired you because both they and you should be fired.. Before you make a backward ass assumption of something you know absolutely nothing about, you really need to base off of more than one experience.. This scene doesnt revolve about drugs there buddy its about music. Just like rock music or any other genre for that matter isnt based around the drugs but i guarentee that you go to a show and you'll find them there too.. Thats it journalism licensed revoked.. go sit your ignorant no sense having self on the corner with a sign that says i give my unwanted retarded opinion to those who dont want it.. you would be better off..

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Posted by blahblahblahwhatevawhatevawhateva on 03/03/2011 at 6:13 PM

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Wow. Okay. Here we go. This is directed at some of the above comments.

Whether you call this a feature article, gonzo or personal essay (which is a form of journalism), nothing about this article addressed the local dub step scene. It was a personal account of one experience.

The level of anger here is astounding to me, as the writer is not knocking dubstep or that community at all. Perhaps it upsets you that the event shared is tied to dub-step and you fear people unfamiliar with that scene will make an assumption and generalize the community to be like the one described above.

If you re-read the article, it's well written and funny. Don't hate for the sake of hating. There's a difference between "Sounds like a nightmare. You should go to a REAL dubstep show" versus the negative attacks made above.

If anything, this piece shows that here in ATL, like many other cities in the US, a) there's dumb people, b) there exist "followers" (versus "leaders"), and c) drug use.

In certain communities in Atlanta, there is a fair share of drug use going on, and any indication that that exists within a specific sub-culture does not necessarily indicate that it permeates the group as a whole. If the writer would have been at a bar in East Atlanta Village, Little Five Points, Poncey-Highlands, VA Highlands or Midtown, I assure you there would have a been a noteworthy enough segment of the population into drugs or doing drugs, but that doesn't indicate that everyone who goes to the same bars or places is a junkie or drug user.
In the idea of "I hate it when people talk bad about our city" we also can't be blind to the negative aspects here (as no city is perfect), nor can we immediately stone someone verbally for pointing out our flaws.

Again, this wasn't about the dubstep scene, or Atlanta, it was about an experience the person had. It was one moment in time. Feels to me like you should be using your energy to keep up the great work making the dubstep scene here bigger so that events like the one described above remain the minority.
:)

CN

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Posted by charlienicholson on 03/03/2011 at 6:02 PM

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Such a disgusting and backwards portrayal of a music scene that many people have spent years building in Atlanta. Next time you cover a music event at a bar please write an article only about how drunk the patrons are. This is not representative of the current dubstep scene in Atlanta.

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Posted by sortedatl on 03/03/2011 at 5:45 PM

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Your previous tweet stated " I hate it when people talk bad about our city"

Well this isn't helping much is it ?

As a touring dubstep artist and producer from Atlanta I find this lack of support and lack of journalism to be rather disheartening and borderline disgusting. Kind of saddens me to think my friends and I go around representing our city to the fullest in other locales only to hear our journalists are not behind us.

I'll see you guys at sxsw !

Shame on you.

ez

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Posted by Distal on 03/03/2011 at 5:15 PM

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Not going to shit on this party or the people that were there. But Atlanta has been bringing in some of the biggest names in dubstep for a few years now. We also have a some big name homegrown talent here too. Where the fuck have you been at?!

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Posted by shaun on 03/03/2011 at 5:09 PM

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BUNCH of HORSE SHIT.

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Posted by djmicke on 03/03/2011 at 5:04 PM

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Yeah this is shit, not the shit, but pure Crap! Sounds like someone got paid to blow a bunch of smoke out their ass! This is nothing like whats going on in Atlanta at ALL! In fact everything that is said here is ass backwards. ATL has a positive, young crowd that is full of glow sticks. Candy ravers are a thing of the past, if ur a party goer then ur just another fan of the music, the vibe and most important the people. There will always be drug, but as long as the respect others and not flaunt their shit, then its just another day!

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Posted by djmicke on 03/03/2011 at 5:03 PM

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