Five years of everyday riding, and I've never seen a drug deal in a MARTA station. I've seen trash, but I've seen trash everywhere.
Every other part of that post screams "I'm terrified in the presence of black people, and society isn't doing enough to comfort me."
Oh look, there's a MARTA station. With open air drug dealing, trash all over the ground, people loitering, pimps pimping, and guys walking around with their pants hanging off their ass. Downtown is so wonderful!!! Oh and just because I"VE never been a victim of crime means its as safe as can be!
That's one big window you got there NaD.
Yes, Downtown Atlanta sucks. Right now, as I look out my window, I see it teeming with activity; businesspeople, college kids, tourists, sports fans, residents. There are fantastic restaurants, parks, hotels and places where people mingle, speak their minds, interact, earn their living, and get shit done. Oh, look, there's a MARTA station, too. And you can walk to ALL OF IT. It's awful, I tell ya!
I've only been down here about 10,000 times, but I'm confident that I'll be a victim of crime or step on a crack pipe ANY DAY NOW. It's bound to happen. Someone from Acworth said so.
10 years in Atlanta, and my one experience of being a crime statistic involved fraudulent charges to my debit card made after I ate at a Mexican restaurant in Roswell.
dude, when was the last time you visited Cobb, 1999???? I mean have you seen Smyrna lately? I think a fifth of Brazil lives there now! (which is awesome, if you love Brazilian ladies and jiu jitsu schools :) )
sure, East Cobb is still full of snobs (which will be the case even after the end of time), but otherwise, that is the only thing that is the same.
besides that, my humble apologies, that we don't share the same gang activity, graffiti, shitty schools, and home invasions that seem to plague the city within 285! lol
Downtown Atlanta reminds me of a downtown from a rust belt city from the 70's.
Cognitive Dissonance (btw, you misspelled it) is a big term. I'll bet you had to look it up. And your position that Sloburbanites like Atlanta is total BS; just mention Marta in Cobb or Gwinnett, and you'll get yer ass kicked.
Suburban counties like Atlanta for: the airport, Grady hospital, dumping your homeless.
Y'all are honest about the problems with crime, corruption, and mismanagement? Really? Just look at the (possibly) new Braves stadium deal. I can't wait for your teaparty friends to derail that.
You learned ladies and gentlemen do realize that intown Atlanta is rife with as may chain restaurants than the burbs right? (next time you go out look on the menu and see if they are part of some 'group' of affiliate restaurants).
Atlanta is by far the smallest city I've lived in, and the smugness of some of the people here in thinking they are cosmopolitan or hip in a relevant way is quite comical.
typical hipster rant. this sentence is enough to understand the mentality of the writer: "Most people I know who live in cities don't have to visit a suburb to know how they feel about it." Forming an opinion without any fact-finding seems to be how the writer not only finds friends, but writes articles.
Soon enough the suburbs will be cool and hip again and hipsters will flock toward the outskirts as city living becomes too commercial and mainstream.
Exact difference between Atlanta and other cities. Here, people say they're from Cobb County or Gwinnett County. If you live 40 miles outside the city you don't call yourself 'an Atlantan'.
I grew up 40 miles outside Boston but I never told anyone what suburb or county I lived in. I always called myself a 'Bostonian' as do most people who live within 50 miles of the city. Same thing in Chicago. You can live in Lake County, Dupage County, but whatever county it was, you were a 'Chicagoan'. You were proud to be from Chicago or Boston. You embraced the city, even if you lived 50 miles from the Loop. Same thing in DC. You can live in Fairfax County or Montgomery County MD, but people in those counties call themselves 'Washingtonians'.
Who here who lives in Cobb or Gwinnett would dare call themselves an 'Atlantan' and embrace the city like that? Heck, people in Alpharetta and Johns Creek are so desperate to disassociate that it's not enough that they formed their own cities. They have to break away from Fulton and form their own fucking county. What a joke.
Who wants to be known by what suburb or county they're from? How can anyone feel proud about that and be so ashamed of the major city that they're a part of? Until the city ever gets serious about cleaning up downtown and makes it a place we can all be proud of, which will likely not happen anytime soon, this provincial culture will continue to exist.
Ya know, the homogenous nation-state is a modern idea. At the time of the French Revolution the only French that spoke French lived in and around Paris. Even into the late 19th and early 20th century France was still being conquered by French-speaking French ... England too once was once a hodgepodge of languages and dialects and even today 300 different languages are spoken in greater London. And speaking of cities ... from the Classical Age and before no major city was mono-language and mono-cultural - cities like that simply didn't exist. Yet that is just the kind of city Americans, particularly Southerners want and expect.
"So-called "Sophisticated Urbanite".......most suburbanites call themselves "Atlantans" because they want to be associated with Atlanta.......are you paying attention???"
Jesus. If they're suburbanites they are not Atlantans. They're Cobbites or Gwinnettans or whatever. Until they live in Atlanta city limits and contribute the way residents do, they're not Atlantans. They're Metro Atlantans. How is this so fucking hard to grasp??
So-called "Sophisticated Urbanite".......most suburbanites call themselves "Atlantans" because they want to be associated with Atlanta.......are you paying attention???
Unlike the ITP crowd that hates the suburbs with a seething passion, the OTP crowd actually likes Atlanta.....and they accept Atlanta for what it is.
There can be no denying that Atlanta has great things to offer. But the suburbanites seem to be a lot more honest about the problems with crime, corruption, and mismanagement!
ITP folks seem to be in denial......and blame the suburbs for the problems of the city.
Its called "cognitive disonance".,
Hey nmwander... you're a bonehead and you know NOTHING about the history of 285 or this City. The Perimeter was built in 19 freaking 69 and THAT is when it got its nickname -- The Perimeter. This State has ALWAYS held the City of Atlanta in low regard. The suburbanites have passed resolutions attacking the people living inside the City limits and have gone as far as to say no to MARTA because they do not want the residents of the City venturing into their lovely suburbs. You can twist it any way you want, but you just make yourself sound ignorant.
"I'm one of "those people" that keep you up at night. I have a good head on my shoulders, not a felon, no baby mama's, come from a good family and I am just as comfortable talking to Westminster soccer moms at the C.E. Sanders/Buckhead YMCA on Moores Mill as I am with talking to some young hoppers on a corner in the Bluff hustling."
This is the mentality thats the problem. You think its something outstanding that you are a productive part of society. Something we should congratulate you about the fact your black and not out killing or robbing people. Its hilarious. Its time to integrate yourselves into American society (finally!).
Guy LeDouche had it correct with his crime FACTS. And pseudo intellectual types like Brionte McCorkle dont get it. Where are all the poor white people in Atlanta committing crime? Because there are poor white people in Atlanta believe it or not.Why arent they out robbing and killing people? Your excuses are pathetic.
Anyway, I just saw the Braves plan for the stadium "way out in the burbs". It looks fantastic. I would actually be more inclined to visit this stadium even though its 10 miles further out of my way.
And I cant wait to see how Kasim "going nowhere" Reed will fuck up the old braves stadium and the surrounding parking lots.
sorry boy, no yokels here.
but nice to know you dropped out of college, and are somehow still an arrogant POS. i guess you're not educated enough to know the deal.
and i sleep very well at night, thanks. not worried about anyone but me and mine. you should try doing the same before you get introduced to real life. run back to your folks in buckhead crying about how a white guy was mean to you.
and if you grew up in buckhead and now own a house in the shitty part of cobb that you hate so much, it sounds like you're on the wrong trajectory in life. i can guess why.
I don't understand why everything has to be placated. Suburbs are boring. Cities are not. Cities have crime. Suburbs have less crime. The End.
The ITP / OTP thing is so stupid. It's like this. You either prefer city living or you prefer suburban living. I prefer city living after a childhood spent in the suburbs. They are not similar. Living in the suburbs is a completely different existence than living in a city. Im not sure why that even has to be debated. If you want to live in the burbs then have fun with it. But trying to find the similarities is just stupid. They each have their pros and cons. Only in Atlanta though do you hear suburban areas try to claim that they are just like the city.
NMWander, we're not talking about the wonderful people who live outside the metro area. It's those f*ing close-in sloburbanites that refer to themselves as Atlantans, but wouldn't be caught dead in the city unless it's to watch a Falcons,Hawks,Braves game. Us ITP'ers don't treat the perimeter as a wall, YOU do. You're the ones who left, so stay out there, and leave us alone.
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