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Comment Archives: stories: News & Views: Cover Story

Re: “The high price of development

atlantan109, what you really mean is that gentrification improves schools by bringing in mainly whites from the middle and upper middle classes. And what you really mean by improving safety is by herding people - mostly minorities - into shittier neighborhoods, with underfunded schools, further away from transportation and resources, creating more disenfranchisement, and more opportunities for crime.

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Posted by Mall of Flowers on 07/21/2016 at 1:51 PM

Re: “Club king

I need to already have the money to speak at that table. New Furniture to make. Broadway invest.net is ready to meet you. MG

Posted by Napoleons on 07/19/2016 at 11:01 AM

Re: “The high price of development

"It is very unfair to push the working poor out of the city."

Fair? What is fair? And where?

News flash: life's not fair. If you rent your place, it can be sold out from under you...or the rent can go up. Actually, that's fairly fair.

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Posted by oydave on 07/18/2016 at 7:57 PM

Re: “The high price of development

It's hard for a single person making over $35,000 to find decent, affordable housing in Atlanta as well. I can only imagine how challenging it is for someone making less than $35,00 with mouths to feed.

If public transit is only available in the city, and not the outskirts of town where the working poor or being displaced, how do they expect people to make a living? It is very unfair to push the working poor out of the city.

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Posted by GANative on 07/18/2016 at 4:54 PM

Re: “30 years of the good, the bad and the weird-as-hell

Does anyone remember POATS Corner? Two guys played southern rock and it was always packed-think it was at little five points-but my brain is old.

Posted by Mary Davis 1 on 07/17/2016 at 2:31 AM

Re: “The high price of development

Why not use your own account? Own your words.

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Posted by wesleywhatwhat on 07/15/2016 at 12:00 PM

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Kudos to the CL staff for removing comments that mock ridiculous assertions btw. I've been a victim of reducto ad absurdum too many times and it's about time someone paid attention to my cries for help. I just want to contribute baseless generalizations to the discussion without being made fun of.

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Posted by Voxapoopinmypants on 07/15/2016 at 11:31 AM

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I have no dog in this fight as I would not live in that part of the city. BUT.......
Everybody want's shinny and new, but know one wants to pay for it. Every body needs to live in a safe place and that is the cities job. but when the police are afraid to go into the hoods because of the violence that exist, what ya gonna do? oh and get all these baby mommies fixed and we wouldn't have all these single mothers living in these apartments.

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Posted by Milo on 07/14/2016 at 11:42 AM

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@ oydave
Voxpopuli has been reading Clinton's newest campaign literature in which she goes left of Sanders.
Of course, Clinton promises to save the rest of us from herself, her husband and the rest of the evil 1%.

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Posted by Burroughston Broch on 07/13/2016 at 2:10 PM

Re: “The high price of development

"Poverty does not exist in a vacuum... There are reasons for it and gentrification is the chief one."

Gentrification is the chief cause of poverty. Just damn. I see your handle is "Read a book." I am curious what books you have been reading.

Poverty is a state of mind. That's why it is so hard to eradicate.

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Posted by oydave on 07/13/2016 at 8:51 AM

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Yeah sadly it looks like Mark is no longer commenting but Eric's troll personas are going strong.
Ever notice he never once actually suggests any solutions or steps but rather just denigrates others? Such a sad existence...full of sound and fury.
Voting is the proven way to change the system in the U.S., the more we exercise such in an educated way the greater the chance for positive change.

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Posted by Voxpopuli on 07/12/2016 at 10:19 AM

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Eric, why is Vox wearing your pants? Is letting men poop in your pants some sort of fetish? Is that some sort of new thing?

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Posted by The Truth on 07/12/2016 at 7:22 AM

Re: “The high price of development

What about he working poor in the area who had the foresight to purchase homes for 20-30K who would be denied the opportunity to see that home appreciate though gentrification and no longer be living paycheck to paycheck, and even allow them to build wealth to pass it onto their family?

We would what to deny them this opportunity that every other American has just because their neighbors were not smart or disciplined enough to invest in homes when they were dirt cheap?

or , do we want to make sure all the poor stay poor?

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Posted by The Truth on 07/11/2016 at 9:56 PM

Re: “The high price of development

Until the people complaining about their economic circumstances vote for change then it is hard have sympathy for them. Nothing has changed in generations other than the disparity of education and wealth becoming greater.
Not that Bernie Sanders was the answer to everything but the poor in Atlanta voted overwhelmingly for a candidate based on name recognition, not policy. The same thing happens in local elections.
If you are too lazy or ignorant to vote for your own self interests then you need to live with the consequences.

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Posted by Voxpopuli on 07/11/2016 at 8:00 PM

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Thanks for the information.

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Posted by atlantan109 on 07/11/2016 at 3:55 PM

Re: “The high price of development

ATLANTAN109- Read up on the Bixby Street Apartments that plagued Kirkwood for years with similar crime issues as Edgewood Court Apartments. They were Sec8, had 174 calls to 911 in a span of 5 years, and torn down in 2014 (ECA have had 170+ calls to 911 in the last few years due to gunfire alone). Now it's 2 years since the demolition of Bixby Street Apartments and Kirkwood is full of new development, a mix of residents and business owners old/new, many young families, and is one of the fastest growing in-town neighborhoods. http://www.decaturish.com/2015/02/with-dev… ; http://nestatlantarealestate.com/2016/04/0…

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Posted by dolanrg on 07/11/2016 at 3:51 PM

Re: “The high price of development

Although as usual the article neglects to define what gentrification actually means, no one blames gentrification for fixing up of the houses, or improving the school system, or increasing safety, etc. Rather the criticism is that these things increase the desirability of a neighborhood, and thus lead to an increase in the value of the land, which in turn leads to displacement of folks.

But Section 8 is permanent. Has there ever been an example of a large Section 8 complex closing down in Atlanta?

As far as I know there are only two ways to close down a Section 8 complex: (1) the landlord decides to sell; (2) the city revokes the landlord's license or refuses to renew it. I do not believe that any of these scenarios are likely (unless the authors of the article know something that they are not telling us). So everyone can relax.

Yes, the middle class may have to move, but Section 8 will be safe, as has been the case for instance in Old Fourth Ward.

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Posted by atlantan109 on 07/11/2016 at 2:28 PM

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@ Brad
Plentiful jobs are not on the horizon. Factory jobs have been declining for years, due to globalization and automation. Mandating $15/hour minimum wage will further reduce the number if blue collar jobs. So what is your next solution?

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Posted by Burroughston Broch on 07/11/2016 at 12:25 PM

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Gentrification isn't the problem. Gentrification is a great thing. One must look to how these neighborhoods got this way in the first place. What happened? How did once thriving neighborhoods get to this? That is where we need to look first. People who are moving into an area and investing time and resources to improve a neighborhood are NOT the problem. The developers and house flippers are NOT the problem yet they are getting blamed.

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Posted by ronricks on 07/11/2016 at 11:19 AM

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As usual the right-wing psychopaths show up, not offering any solutions but mocking and denigrating those that are victims of a viciously inequitable economic system. If you can't figure out that affordable housing combined with plentiful jobs would go a long way to solving these issues, there's something gravely wrong. And this goes for all of us. Affordable housing is disappearing and affects not just the poor but more and more the middle class. But hey, keep living in your bubbles and keep mocking the poor, whom you will likely be a part of one day if current trends continue.

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Posted by Brad on 07/11/2016 at 9:57 AM

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