Clearly, you all have no idea what a budget is, nor have you ever been responsible for managing a capital project. When something is said to be "over budget," it means that expenditures exceed revenues. This is not the case with the streetcar. The projected expenditures are actually below the projected revenues. The scope of the project has indeed gotten bigger, but that is a good thing for the city because more revenue has followed to pay for it.
Imagine you own a house and you need to repair your roof. You only have $1500 in the bank, so you ask the contractor to just do the bare minimum (i.e. replace the flashing and shingles). While the project is under construction, the contractor tells you that your gutters are old and about to start cracking and leaking. At about the same time, you inherit $500 from your uncle and decide to spend that money on the new gutters. The total budget for the roof project is now $2000, but it is not over budget.
You are actaully better off in the end, because now you have a new roof and new gutters and you only had to pay to mobilize the contractor once. The total cost is likely lower than it would have been if you fixed your gutters two years later.
the guy sounds a little nuts, but good luck to him.
If you're in the Kennesaw area, best tamales by far are Noemi's Tamales - well worth the drive if you aren't: http://www.noemistamales.com/
It's too bad Ralph David Abernathy is not around to protest the Chinese space program like he did in America in 1969.
Downtown is very safe....because I carry firearm whenever I visit.
It's laughable to see the bloated construction cost(42% increase) blamed on things like unanticipated existing underground utilities. Who would thought they might be hiding in the Atlanta Streetcar's path?
This might explain why MARTA wants no part of operating the Atlanta Streetcar.
"The streetcar is on budget and a little behind schedule."
Um except it is not on budget.
Maybe you might want to take a look at the official Atlanta streetcar site:
"The total cost of the project is $69.2 million with capital match contributions from the City of Atlanta $15.6 million and ADID $6 million as part of a total contribution from ADID of $20 million over 20 years."
And then further done on the SAME page:
The total $92 million capital cost to deliver the Atlanta Streetcar includes:
$47.6 million in TIGER II Federal Transit Administration grant funds
$32.6 million from the City of Atlanta Recovery Zone Bond funds and Department of Watershed Management Clean Water program
$6 million from the Atlanta Downtown Improvement District (ADID)
$6.45 million from the Atlanta Regional Commission Livable Centers Initiative Program"
It's up to 98 million at last count. Nice to see that potential recovery zone and watershed management clean water program funds are being allocated for the overage. The streetcar seems like a much wiser use of funds. I mean its not like Atlanta has any recovery or water/sewage.
Shuddup ya dumb beatnik
You know, for all his antics, in his heyday he was one of the most talented chefs around. His personal problems held him back, along with his ego. But he remains one of my favorite chefs to ever cook in Atlanta.
"If you believe in contemporary astronomy intense global warming will inevitably destroy all life on Earth eventually anyway."
True, but that is no reason to accelerate the process. Mankind-induced acceleration of the natural processes will probably result in widespread drought and global famine. The suffering that results may not occur in our generation, but likely during the next. This can be ameliorated if folks like you and I were willing to slow down our carbon dioxide production through entirely reasonable steps.
The streetcar is on budget and a little behind schedule. What people outside government don't understand is that when a transportation project budget "increases," it can mean one of two things: a) the original scope is going to cost more because the estimate was off (bad) or b) the scope of the project is being expanded because the original project was not going to address all of the issues and more money has been secured (good). The Atlanta Streetcar falls under scenario b. Since the project was originally scoped, several things that needed to be done anyway have been added to the budget, including: additional trains, utility upgrades, sidewalk expansion, bicycle lanes, and street repaving. Instead of getting kudos for finding the money to complete all of this necessary work, city staff gets criticized because the total "cost" of the streetcar goes up, even though the cost is fully covered (mostly with federal money).
Humans have had a nice run, (not compared to dinosaurs or bacteria), but still we've been the dominant species for a few ticks of the Earths clock. Worst case scenario something else takes the helm, then something else, then something else, etc. till the Earth is devoid of life.
If you believe in contemporary astronomy intense global warming will inevitably destroy all life on Earth eventually anyway...regardless of how many Teslas the pretentious rich folk buy.
When the streetcar was originally announced it was budgeted at approx. $70 million and to be already running. Final budget is now closer to $100 million and it is still not operational.
You were the one who brought up all the alleged wonderful works of the current administration and COO, I'm simply asking you for a list of which ones his admin. has been directly responsible for (vs. the negative ones I've pointed out).
Ha, I thought about the bike lane (and other improvements) but I think those are more midtown alliance and less mayors office.
My understanding is that the streetcar is on budget and on schedule. Could someone please clarify? Thanks.
Aren't you a bit premature on the China moon story? Yes to an unmanned vehicle, but astronauts?
Modus Operandi of fbi: drive a person to neuroses, or insanity; set him up for a crime using fbi operatives; prosecute the confused and disoriented human being for offenses that in fact the fbi committed.
'Ask not what your country can do for you'; ask what your country can do TO you.
Overthrown government of usa now controlled by very dangerous and murderous thugs (*beasts) of fbi/CIA/homeland security.
high tech torture, ELF, by low minded thugs of fbi:
*'Veterans Today', Dr. Preston James on usa corruption & fbi murderous evil:
Evil in focus:
The *worldwide network of friends of the accused and terrorized who struggle in intellectual and spiritual opposition against the **human monsters of our generation thanks you, each & every one in our company, for your efforts to expose the methods and identities of the torturers and assassins of our culture; surely stopping such evil is the greatest goal or ideal of our time, and our work is therefore among the most noble of human endeavors because we labor and suffer to rid our species of the demonic-like curse and degenerative affliction that punctuate the demise or downfall of our violently corrupted civilization. Respectfully, geral
"I do have a university minor in thermodynamics and understand the subject at that level."
Excellent! Skip the first book - now pick up an academic tome on ecology. You will see the connection between relatively minor temperature fluctuations, effects on ecosystems and species viability. Or you can keep your mind closed and continue to waste your life rearranging your biases.
2110 huh? I guess it's really hard to imagine that things might be different in 100 years. Just don't pick up the guitar!
Vox, Get real. Mayors and COOs don't have magic wands to escape the forces of the global and US economy. The worst recession since the 30s was in full swing when the administration came in. Failing to fix pensions would have broken the budget. Even in good times, resources are extremely tight in a city with so much poverty. So moving Ponce City Market into development, grabbing what little stimulus money the city could get to begin transit connection to the Beltline, attracting a bunch of high-tech employers to the city instead of the burbs ... all contribute economic dynamism.
So this Mayor has really had no agenda. I think everyone recognizes that. His intention was to use these two terms as means to propel him into statewide office, however unrealistic that ambition might be. Since he had no vision for what he wanted accomplish as Mayor (his big three policy proposals - opening closed rec centers, adding police officers, and fixing pensions are all tactical issues at best), we should not be surprised that nothing has happened. Now he wants to address our infrastructure deficit in year 6 of his administration despite the fact that he knew about this issue when he came in. He is a very cautious, very political player, and as a result will go down as a below average Mayor.
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