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Re: “First Slice 11/20/14: Atlanta streetcar delayed again

Breaking: That jerk Tim Lee got away with his dirty trick to remove the tough Cobb ethics board member by hiring her ex as his lawyer.

Posted by cityzen on 11/20/2014 at 3:54 PM

Re: “First Slice 11/20/14: Atlanta streetcar delayed again

Here's a link from Washington times since the other one seems not to be working:…

Posted by Voxpopuli on 11/20/2014 at 3:53 PM

Re: “First Slice 11/20/14: Atlanta streetcar delayed again

Projected to now open December 6. Probably going to be delayed a few weeks, not months, Broch.

Posted by ormehood on 11/20/2014 at 3:47 PM

Re: “First Slice 11/20/14: Atlanta streetcar delayed again

Anyone willing to admit I was right about the Monorail yet?

(I can dig up the comments from those stating it should be ready by the July 4th, Labor Day at the latest, be an economic boon, an effective mode of public transportation, not another downtown fiscal debacle.... and how wrong I am to claim otherwise )

Posted by Voxpopuli on 11/20/2014 at 3:47 PM

Re: “Why we blocked the Downtown Connector

These are the same negros who treat me like crap for not accepting group "wisdom," getting an education in something that involves creating things other than excuses.

Standing out in the middle of the highway as the human speed bump tells you all you need to know about their intellect, conception of manhood and problem-solving skills: nothing to note.

Posted by whatever on 11/20/2014 at 3:26 PM

Re: “First Slice 11/20/14: Atlanta streetcar delayed again

"Atlanta's Downtown streetcar has been delayed... again."

The White Elephant (maybe I should say Blue Elephant) is more than a year over schedule and thought to be 45% over budget. What will a few more months and $ millions matter? Only more taxes for the City taxpayers.

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Posted by Burroughston Broch on 11/20/2014 at 3:21 PM

Re: “First Slice 11/20/14: Atlanta streetcar delayed again

Still getting a "Page not found" here

Posted by jsvh on 11/20/2014 at 3:17 PM

Re: “First Slice 11/20/14: Atlanta streetcar delayed again


sorry about that - a new link has been added

Posted by on 11/20/2014 at 2:45 PM

Re: “Bye bye, bad development along the Beltline?

OMG!!! BAD DEVELOPMENT!!!. Can somebody define bad development or is it like porn; you know it when you see it? For instance the new burger time or whatever it's called going in where the Zesto's on Ponce was. Good or bad? That's in the beltline overlay and I'm willing to bet car based fast food joint isn't part of the vision, whatever the fuck that is.

Until the underlying zoning is changed there's going to be a lot of "bad development" like the first commenter pointed out.

Posted by Mr. Whiskers on 11/20/2014 at 2:38 PM

Re: “Bye bye, bad development along the Beltline?

How about an olympic size ice rink somewhere along the route to promote in-town hockey or professional ice-skating which Atlanta is lacking. Atlanta ContactPoint wants to do that and more!

Posted by Linda Skvasik Green on 11/20/2014 at 2:32 PM

Re: “First Slice 11/20/14: Atlanta streetcar delayed again

Page not found

The requested page could not be found.


I guess the news on the Atlanta street car delay was also delayed !

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Posted by nohyphens on 11/20/2014 at 2:20 PM

Re: “Bye bye, bad development along the Beltline?

Many of you are sorely informed. A huge part of the Beltline has always been about development, however, steering development towards a more walking centric design. This article is completely in line with the initial plans laid down many years before any of you ever heard of it. Unfortunately, developers are using it as an excuse to continue with status quo shit, building more forgettable crap centered around cars. So we're getting more of the same. Hopefully guidelines will be more strictly enforced in the future and we'll see more of what is possible. I'm probably too optimistic though because as someone stated above, this city is full of hucksters and a broad worldview is rare to find.

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Posted by Jason Daniel Roberts on 11/20/2014 at 1:41 PM

Re: “Stop parking in bike lanes, Atlanta

Well, at least if they decide to park in our lanes, we can prevent them from getting out!

Posted by Nicole Isaac on 11/20/2014 at 1:30 PM

Re: “Bye bye, bad development along the Beltline?

They need to incorporate neighborhood representation somehow. All parts of the Beltline are not the same.

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Posted by Angus on 11/20/2014 at 1:29 PM

Re: “Development wants, development gets

Is it too much to ask that the city require something beyond $1500/month "mixed-use" apartment complexes? Something more affordable but dense? There's plenty of multi-family housing being built, but none of it has the working class in mind.

Posted by Graybeard Lyles on 11/20/2014 at 12:51 PM

Re: “Judge sides with city in pension reform lawsuit; firefighters consider possible appeal

Why do police officers and firefighters get a hazardous duty pension? For several reasons:
1. The public has an expectation that police and firefighters risk their lives in an effort to save members of the public. A pension not only solidifies a retirement, but it also protects a responder's family. If a responder had to make a calculation each time a moment of life risk occurs; what will happen to my family if I am disabled or killed? Will my family end up in the street ? Who will care for my children? These mental calculations would lead to delays serving the public, and could result in the death of citizens that could have possibly been saved.
2. Responders give up the prime of their lives for a decent salary and a promise of a decent retirement because their careers generally end earlier then a person who works in a library or a stock broker, etc. Who wants a 60 year old police officer chasing a 20 something shooter down the street, or a 65 year old firefighter running into your burning home to save your children and spouse. Please look at the statistics for someone over 50 years old attempting to find a new job in this country and you might understand why it is that responders need some promise of stability in the event of disability, death and retirement.
3. The pension is a tool used by employers to keep valued employees from leaving. Training costs for responders is high and replacing responders and their understanding of how a system works is not something that can be done instantly. In fact it takes years to season a responder with experience that is specific to Atlanta or Miami or NYC, etc.

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Posted by TruthSayer on 11/20/2014 at 12:40 PM

Re: “Bye bye, bad development along the Beltline?

@ nohyphens
"also what is that train in the picture ?"

It's an artist's wet dream with the StreetCar thrown in, minus all of the poles and overhead wiring. Making it realistic would make the concept more difficult to sell.

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Posted by Burroughston Broch on 11/20/2014 at 12:15 PM

Re: “Bye bye, bad development along the Beltline?

I like the Beltline and all but the project has become like so many other Atlanta efforts with half commitments and a goal to 'reshape' the city. Ignoring that fact that many of us love the city. I'd love to have a beltline of actual transit and improved walkability and bike lanes, but now the emphasis, like always, is on real estate development.

“The Beltline, it’s an opportunity for Atlanta to do a whole lot of place-making,” Dickens says. “You don’t get that real estate back. You gotta do it right when you’re doing it, and you want it to be remarkable.”

This is exactly what has been going on for 50 years. The idea that what we have isn't good enough and we're arrogant to believe that we will tear it all down and build a new Atlanta. This is why we are losing historic structures at such a rapid pace.

The Beltline could be great if we focus on improving our neighborhoods and historic places rather than replacing them.

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Posted by rw on 11/20/2014 at 11:35 AM

Re: “Preservationists cry foul over potential demolition of 20 Hilliard St.

Again, no one has clarified what is actually historic about this particular building. Existence for 100+ years is not historic in and of itself.

Surviving a significant fire could be considered of historical value but I'd personally call that a stretch.

Posted by Pork n Cheese on 11/20/2014 at 11:19 AM

Re: “MARTA prepares for Clayton expansion … and beyond?

Well, "the idea that MARTA's interest is to provide a useful public service is laughable" may not be correct but it is true that of late their main goals are outside the areas of their actual purpose.
No transit system in the USA (or maybe anywhere) actually makes it on their fares & all depend to varying degrees on grants, etc., but MARTA seems to have taken the idea of outside commercial interests & development as their primary source of direct funding.
By that I mean their advertising sales, their highly touted palns for commercial enterprises, etc., ajacent to or even on company property (rental fees).

Meanwhile service performance lags, buildings & other infrastructure remain in disrepair (for example, both main train stations, 5 Pts & Lindbergh, have roofs w/ multiple leaks), several stations need remodeling to overcome poor design problems, etc.

Plans are afoot for greater rail service to the north end but that's to an area that already has service that extends further out than any other area & while it does have great potential for growth b/c of commuter traffic, what will draw customers isn't more stations but better service, the main area where MARTA needs improvement.

Administration there seems to be terribly disconnected from the actual day-to-day operations.
There's no direct supervision of what really goes on at stations, on buses, etc., nor is there a way for customers to actually find out if anything is ever done to investigate or correct complaints.

Just yesterday [11-19-2014] some MARTA buses were still flashing alerts for voters to get out to vote on Nov 4th !
You can't get more disconnected than that.

They have a captive customer base that has no choice but to use the service & that "no need to appeal" mentality seems to've set in at all levels.

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Posted by Darryl Weaver on 11/20/2014 at 11:18 AM

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